Kaga ngomongin Leo. Tuh rubah dirimu kalau mau tentrem. 1. Ga buka situs ini 2.Ceraikan tuh TOA. Jadi ga mengamplify pelbagai penistaan-penzaliman-fitenah. 3. Coba nT tulis faham yang "lunak-lunak", instead, sesuai keyakinan nT.
--- In [email protected], a.wid...@... wrote: > > Kaga ngomongin stalin, robah diri ente sendiri kalo mau tentram...tuh quote si leo yg dalam... > -----Original Message----- > From: "ndeboost" rambitese...@... > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:37:02 > To: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow Puppet Shows > > "...Semua orang berpikir untuk mengubah dunia.. Tapi tak satupun > berpikir > untuk merubah dirinya sendiri... " > Leo Tolstoy sejaman Stalin ga? Tuaan Leo ya? > Stalin mengorbankan 20.000.000 rakyatnya sendiri yasng non Rusia. > Leo saja yang sesama jenis dengan Stalin "ajarannya" memble. Atau Stalin > ga > (mau) tahu tentang Leo? > > --- In [email protected], a.widura@ wrote: > > > > Nih buat yg doyan perang, jihad dsb... > > > > Leo Tolstoy > > â"⺠Semua orang berpikir untuk mengubah dunia.. Tapi tak > satupun berpikir untuk merubah dirinya sendiri... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:17:15 > > To: [email protected] > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack > Shadow Puppet Shows > > > > Yah yah, bagaimana mau damai? > > Misalnya yg ga punya storing kirim pasukan N evangelis, > > bukannya kasih pengertian agar menahan diri. > > > > Lalu kalau tetangga ngelempar batu, sono mindah pager > > hingga tetangga makin niat lagi ngelemparin batu? > > > > Btw, nT dan TOA rukun-rukun saja kan? > > > > --- In [email protected], a.widura@ wrote: > > > > > > Kalo saya sih, yg penting itu hidup damai...agama seharusnya bisa > menjadi peredam amarah...masalah ada yg keluar dan masuk agama itu hal > lumrah, jangan dibikin masalah lalu sampai bunuh bunuhan...kalo cuma > nyari jeleknya aja, pasti ada, apalagi kalo dibalut dengan kepentingan > kelompok, makin runcing deh rasa kebenciannya... Heran aja sekarang ini > pemicu konflik justru muncul dari masalah agama...alampun tidak > menciptakan mahluk yg sama seragam, justru beragam macam banyak > sekali...kita tidak mungkin hidup dalam lingkungan homogen, untuk bisa > tentram harus dimulai dari hati masing masing...kata kuncinya > menghormati...kalau rasa saling menghormati berjalan baik, pasti damai > tentram...mencari cari dan mengungkit2 kesalahan masa lalu tidak akan > memberikan progres positif bagi ketentraman hidup...camkanlah, agama itu > hal pribadi...jangan dipolitisir dan tidak usah khawatir denga kuantity > anggotanya...keluar masuk adalah hal lumrah dan urusan masing2 > pribadi... > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "sebuah.kenyataan" sebuah.kenyataan@ > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:15:35 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack > Shadow Puppet Shows > > > > > > Maklum saja, FPI itu isinya preman-preman pengangguran yang > diindoktrinisasi oleh Islam sehingga jadinya ya 100% Islam dan 100% > preman. > > > > > > Gayanya pake sorban putih, celana buntung, jenggotan, teriak > histeris Allahuakbar, dengan tingkah laku bajingan. Kalau mereka punya > pekerjaan, mana mungkin ikut-ikutan organisasi kampungan macam FPI? > > > > > > Lebih hebatnya lagi, perilaku bibit-bibit terorisme macam kayak gini > ini yang dibela mati-matian oleh Ndeboost dan Tawangalun. Tapi tidak > mengapa, Proletar kita mana seru kalau tidak ada orang-orang seperti > Ndeboost dan Tawangalun yang hobi bikin dagelan? > > > > > > Kalau Proletar isinya cuma A.Widura, Ayubyahya, Jasadlelaki, David > Silalahi, Jusfiq, Kimhook, Wawan dan Richan Situmorang, bakalan > aman-tentram. Nggak ada dagelan, nggak seruuu...!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], a.widura@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Wedewww... segala wayang dimusuhin...yg ngga ngga aja....tu orang > and his gang kayanya minta dikasih daerah suaka supaya bisa hidup sesuai > kemauannya aja...ngga bisa hidup dalam lingkungan heterogen...cuma bikin > keributan... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "Wong" <wong_gendeng05@> > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:34:15 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack > Shadow Puppet Shows > > > > > > > > Bajingaan, bangsat, biadab. > > > > > > > > Wayang adalah hiburan ketika saya masih kecil, ketika tinggal di > kampung pedalaman, dimanapun jika ada dalang kondang manggung bermain > wayang, saya smepatkan untuk nonton semalaman. Dan wayang tidak punya > kesalahan apa2, kenapa harus di musuhi, dasar kamu Laskar syetan. > > > > > > > > mengapa wayang kamu musuhi, apa salahnya wayang? apakah karena > agama kamu yaitu Islam yang menyuruh kamu melakukan pengrusakan wayang. > kalo bener Islam menyuruh kamu untuk melakukan pengrusakan wayang maka > saya katakan bahwa ISLAM ADALAH AGAMA SETAN. ISLAM AGAMA BANGSAT, ISLAM > BUKAN AGAMA UNTUK ORANG BERADAB. dasar laskar jihad Bangsat. > > > > > > > > > > > > gak Rahayu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Refleksi : Kaum garis keras yang menyerang pertunjukan wayang > kulit ini adalah tidak lain dari pada orang Jawa, cuma saja beda > dengan orang jawa bisa mereka ini kebanyakan makan korma dan shishsi > kebab kambing gila akibatnya mereka mabuk aroma surgawi gurun pasir. > Today Sidoarjo, tomorrow Jokja and Solo? hehehehehehee > > > > > > > > > > Lama kelamaan pasti mereka akan melarang gamelang, karena > dianggap membunyikan suara iblis bin seythan demi memurtadisasikan umat > untuk dibawa ke neraka. Bukankah sobat-sobat kental mereka seperti > Taliban di Pakistan, Afghanistan atau juga Al Shahab di Somalia melarang > bunyi-bunyian iblis bin seythan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/muslim-hard-liners-in-central-java-a\ \ > ttack-shadow-puppet-shows/401266 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow Puppet Shows > > > > > Candra Malik | October 14, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > Sukoharjo, Central Java. First it was churches and a minority > Islamic sect, then the gay community and a former Playboy editor. Now > the country's much-derided Muslim hard-liners are reportedly targeting > one of its most beloved icons: Wayang. > > > > > > > > > > Ki Slamet Gundono, a world-renowned dalang (puppet master) for > the traditional Javanese shadow puppetry, on Wednesday said hard-liners > in Sukoharjo, a town south of Solo, had broken up several performances > in the area. > > > > > > > > > > "A bunch of youths calling themselves Laskar Jihad [warriors of > jihad] attacked a wayang performance taking place in Sembung Wetan > village in Sukoharjo on Saturday night," he said. > > > > > > > > > > "They threatened members of the audience and forced them to > disperse. "We strongly condemn this violence," he added. > > > > > > > > > > Gundono said he only recently learned about the incident from > fellow wayang practitioners who were afraid to report it to police. > > > > > > > > > > "We have decided to take a united stand to protect the arts and > culture against violent acts by any group," he said, adding people > should not be afraid to hold future performances. > > > > > > > > > > Joko Ngadimin, founder of Sekarjagad, a wayang and gamelan music > troupe, said several similar attacks had occurred before. > > > > > > > > > > "The latest incident on Saturday happened near my house," he > told the Globe. > > > > > > > > > > "Two people were injured and the performance was forced to stop. > The attackers from Laskar Jihad were throwing rocks and brandishing > swords." > > > > > > > > > > He added the attackers all wore turbans and kept yelling " > Allahu Akbar! " ("God is great!") while running amok. > > > > > > > > > > Joko said the attacks were usually carried out during smaller > weekend performances. > > > > > > > > > > "These rioters only seem to disrupt wayang performances on the > weekend," he said. "But they haven't dared break up any by a senior > dalang." > > > > > > > > > > Saturday's attack took place at the home of Ripto Anto Mulyono, > a maker of gamelan instruments in Sembung Wetan village. Ripto had > invited dalang Ki Agung Nugraha Sukresna to perform at his house as part > of a family celebration. > > > > > > > > > > "He asked me to perform there because his son, Rahmat Nugroho, > had just passed the test to get into the civil service," Sukresna said. > > > > > > > > > > He added none of the performers or musicians had been hurt in > the attack. > > > > > > > > > > "At first I didn't know who was attacking us because I had been > working the wayang behind the screen," he said. "Then, in an instant, > the melee moved really close to the screen." > > > > > > > > > > Separately, Comr. Sukiryono, chief of detectives at the > Sukoharjo Police, said he had not received any reports of Saturday's > attack and was unaware of the incident. "However, we'll promptly follow > up on this information," he said. > > > > > > > > > > Witnesses said the attackers might have been provoked by the > fact audience members were drinking alcohol during the shows, which can > run from early evening until dawn. > > > > > > > > > > Ki Manteb Sudarsono, another world-renowned dalang, condemned > the attack and called on all wayang practitioners to stand together in a > show of defiance against the attackers. > > > > > > > > > > "I've never experienced such an incident, but violence seems to > be disrupting our tranquility more and more," he said. > > > > > > > > > > "The government and police should act to resolve such cases." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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