ndeboost kebelet QS 4:82... Nggak berani lagi ngoceh bilang al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu Allah.
Lantas dia ributin Bible --- In [email protected], "ndeboost" <rambitese...@...> wrote: > > KATEBE, Tuhan disogok harumnya bakaran kurban dan lalu ga jadi pengutuk > lagi. > Re. Kej. 8:21 > > Tambahan: > Qurban yang disembelih (dengan nama Allah) sebelum shalat Idul Adha ga > bernilai qurban namun daging biasa. > > "........and whoever slaughtered his sacrifice (before the prayer), what > he offered was just meat that he presented to his family, and that was > not a sacrifice." (HR Bukhari > Volume 7, Book 68, Number 467:) > > --- In [email protected], "hardjantosri" <hardjantosri@> > wrote: > > > > Yo beda ta Pemdun kalau saya dagingnya langsung dibagikan kefakir > miskin,sebagian saya bikin gulai hari itu juga.nek animis kayak yg kau > sebut itu dibikin sesaji dikeler keler sampai sehari lebih. > > Dan daging dari pemotongan hewan umum kalau ditest dg daging kurban > saya secara Lab saya jamin podo wae. > > > > S.Har. > > > > --- In [email protected], "pemerhatidunia" pemerhatidunia@ > wrote: > > > > > > Kurban (sacrifice) dalam sejarah manusia adalah praktek penyembahan > dewa2 KEGELAPAN. Di Mesir dikenal sebagai dewa SETH. Di India sebagai > dewi CALI. Di Yahudi adalah YAHWEH. Di Islam adalah ALLAH. > > > > > > Demikian pula jin syetan danyang dan tukang santet semua perlu > tumbal sajen yg umumnya berupa pengurbanan NYAWA dan DARAH. > > > > > > itu ciri khas aliran HITAM. > > > > > > Dewa-dewi dari aliran "putih" semua TIDAK ADA YANG MINTA SESAJI > APALAGI TUMBAL SAJEN DARAH NYAWA SEMACAM ITU. > > > > > > Apa yang mereka mau dari darah dan nyawa binatang?? Pertanyaan > menarik yg menyangkut eksistensi alien2 ini. Jelas mereka butuh sesuatu > dari binatang2 itu. > > > > > > Dari analisis mendalam, dari pengalaman, diketahui bahwa alien2 roh > itu memang perlu ENERGI. Ada yg menyebutnya PRANA, AETHER, energi yang > bisa menyebabkan "mujijat misalnya orang kebal, mematahkan besi dengan > tangan kosong, penyembuhan. dan sebagainya. Energi alam gaib ini > dikelola dan diatur dengan PIKIRAN. > > > > > > Nah, besok pagi, kambing domba itu akan disembelih. Dipersembahkan > energinya untuk memberi makan alien roh bernama ALLAH itu. > > > > > > Salah satu buktinya, coba kalian cicipi rasanya daging kurban. KALAU > SESAJI ITU SUDAH DIMAKAN OLEH OKNUM GAIB ATAU SYETAN, MAKA RASANYA AKAN > HAMBAR. Aku sendiri membuktikannya. Teman2ku mengatakan hal yang sama. > Demikian pula pengalaman banyak orang yg membuat sesaji, peringatan > kematian dll. Tanya pada orang2 Jawa dll yg pernah memberi sesaji. > > > > > > Sebab itu, tidak dianjurkan makan dari sesaji qurban, sebab itu > sudah disedot sarinya oleh dewa2 kegelapan. > > > > > > Berarti qurban itu sukses memberi makan energi untuk oknum dewa-dewi > kegelapan. Mereka sukses dalam usaha mereka membelenggu manusia, menipu > manusia, dan tetap berkuasa di planet ini. > > > > > > > > > City butchers ready for Idul Adha > > > Irawaty Wardany, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Tue, 11/16/2010 9:20 AM > As the majority of Muslims in the country readied their livestock for > the Idul Adha day of sacrifice, some have mixed feeling about havings > animals led to the slaughterhouse even for religious reasons. > > > > > > Ajeng Dewanti is a vegetarian and she thinks that animal deserve > better but she could respect fellow Muslims who practice the age-old, > religion-sanctioned ritual. > > > > > > "If it were not mandated by religion, I would certainly stand > against the slaugthering of the animal," Ajeng told The Jakarta Post on > Monday. > > > > > > Ajeng said she turned vegan almost one year ago and she would > continue campaigning against eating meat. > > > > > > While Ajeng is making up her mind about joining the Idul Adha > festivities, a butcher in Pejagalan, an old Javenese name for butchery, > in North Jakarta Judan Paroit readies their tool for the big day. > > > > > > Judan said he had no qualm about performing his duty as animal > sacrifice was part of the ritual of his religion and he believed the > death of the animals would be more meaningful as their meat would be > used to feed those who are poor. > > > > > > In fact, Judan had mastered the trick of inflicting the least amount > of pain towards animals that he handled. > > > > > > Judan said that Islamic rules had taught him how to properly handle > the animals. > > > > > > "I always keep my machete sharp before I could use it on the > sacrificial animals," he said. > > > > > > Judan expects that with the sharp machete, the animal would pass > over very soon without excessive suffering. > > > > > > Judan is only one of the butchers who moonlight as goat traders in > Pejagalan. Most residents in the sub-district are butchers. > > > > > > For Judan and all butchers in Pejagalan, Idul Adha is one of the few > occassions when they could > > > earn more. > > > > > > "Idul Adha last year, I worked on five cows and seven goats in a > small Mosque in Teluk Gong (North Jakarta)," he said, adding that he was > paid Rp 50,000 (US$5.5) per goat and Rp 350,000 per cow. > > > > > > Other than the money, most of the time, he could go home with animal > hide and heads. > > > > > > Ismail, 49, a butcher in Kebon Jati Market, Tanah Abang, Central > Jakarta said that Idul Adha will also be a bountiful time for him. > > > > > > "On a regular day I get only Rp 5,000 for every goat. But on Idul > Adha I get paid Rp 50,000 per animal," he said. > > > > > > In the market, he said there are jobs for everybody with different > people specializing on certain trade. One butcher could only handle cow > but not goat. > > > > > > "We have to decide our own trade, so won't take other people's job," > Ismail said. > > > > > > As someone who has been in the business for more than 20 years, > Ismail claimed he developed special skill that he could use to reduce > the bad smell that goat gave off. > > > > > > "The tools and the prayer may be the same but it is the technique > that decides the quality of the (goat) meat," he said, chuckling. > > > > > > Hasan Ali, 51, a goat trader and owner of a butchery in Kebon Jati > said that his neighborhood had a long history in the animal business and > Idul Adha has always been a busy day for him. Kebon Jati has a sizeable > residents of Arab-descent who have lived in the area since the Dutch > colonial period. > > > > > > "You know Arabs like goat meat and in this neighborhood you won't > find only goat sellers but also butchery. It's a tradition that lives > until today," he said. > > > > > > Hasan said he won't take order for this Idul Adha as he would do > animals sent by people wanting to have birthday celebration or > circumcision and preparation of meat for his satay stall. > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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