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--- In [email protected], "ndeboost" <rambitese...@...> wrote: > > Kenapa jauh-jauh ke negerimu Pak? nT ambil saja contoh dirimu sendiri > yang berangsur meninggalkan shalat lalu atheist dan malah lebih jauh > dari itu semuanya Anti Islam. Nikmat ya Pak ga ada yang menjaga lagi? > Dulu otakmu adalah penjagamu, sekarang musuh yang menjerumuskanmu, namun > Pak Yusfiq ga sadar saja. > > --- In [email protected], "Jusfiq" <kesayangan.allah@> wrote: > > > > > > Orang Islam di negeri Belanda mulai mikir pake otak dan mereka baca > tulisan pemikir seperti Abu Zaid.. > > > > --- > > > > Critical voices within the Dutch Islamic community are too seldom > heard. At least, that's the view of the group of young Muslims behind > the website nieuwemoskee.nl - 'new mosque'. > > > > "Islam expects Muslims to have their own points of view and to make > their own choices," says theology student Arnold Yasin Mol, "not blindly > to accept everything passed down from past generations. Early Muslims > were critical too." > > > > Mr Mol, who converted to Islam seven years ago, heads the Deen > Research Centre, a think tank on modern Islamic thought, and sits on the > board of the Dutch Muslim Party. He's long held the view that not enough > was being heard from critical voices within the Muslim community in the > Netherlands. Together with a small group of like-minded people, he has > set up the Dutch-language nieuwemoskee.nl website. > > > > Treachery > > Since the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Muslims have been viewed with > suspicion and, within their community, self-criticism has tended to be > seen as treachery. Mr Mol thinks this attitude is mistaken: > > > > "If something is wrong with certain Muslim customs, we think it should > be a matter for open discussion. The separation of men and women in > mosques for instance is highly controversial within Islam. Muslims > should be willing to take far stronger positions on such issues." > > > > Stimulate debate > > The website is also intended to stimulate the public debate on Islam's > position in Dutch society. Mr Mol thinks this has become deadlocked, > partly because Muslims have been slow to join in the discussion. This > was one of the reasons to call the website `new mosque'. "At the dawn of > Islam, the mosque was the place for challenging discussion, not just > among Muslims themselves, but also with followers of other religions." > > > > Articles on celebrated reformers such as Syria's Mohammed Shahrur and > Egypt's late Nasr Abu Zayd have a prominent place on the website. Mr Mol > confirms that the site editors are very interested in these modernistic > thinkers. However, he doesn't want the site to be identified with their > ideas. > > > > Salafists > > "Our intention is broader. We want to provide a platform for critical > voices from all schools of thought, whether they be reformist, > conservative or fundamentalist. Fundamentalist Salafists can also be > very self-critical." > > > > The Dutch government has long complained that the internet is > dominated by Salafists, and that young Dutch Muslims looking for > information about Islam on the internet can only find fundamentalist > websites. The government hopes that by supporting moderate websites like > islamwijzer.nl (Islam guide) it can help break this monopoly. > > > > Independent > > Arnold Yasin Mol stresses that nieuwemoskee.nl doesn't receive any > government funding. "It's entirely our own initiative. We do understand > what the Dutch government is doing, but we want to remain fully > independent." > > > > Mr Mol says the new website meets a demand among young Dutch Muslims. > > > > "At home they have a traditional upbringing and at school they're > exposed to the Dutch approach to the world. Their attempts to reconcile > these two worlds starts them thinking. In fact this automatically makes > them critical. All we're doing is creating a space for a voice that > already exists." > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
