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Staunch atheist wins over audience in debate with Catholic convert over whether 
religion is a force for good in the world
   
    * guardian.co.uk, Saturday 27 November 2010 09.38 GMT
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Tony Blair (left) and Christopher Hitchens before their debate on religion 
Former British prime minister Tony Blair (left) and author Christopher Hitchens 
before their debate on religion. Photograph: Mark Blinch/Reuters

In theory it was not an event that should have created a stir: a philosophical 
debate on the moral merits of religion. In an age of reality TV drama and 
Hollywood blockbusters loaded with special effects it would seem hard to get 
the masses to flock to witness such an old-fashioned, high brow spectacle.

But when the two debaters are the world's most famous recent Roman Catholic 
convert in the shape of Tony Blair and the charismatic yet cancer-stricken 
sceptic Christopher Hitchens suddenly it becomes easier to sell tickets.

Two thousand seven hundred tickets to be precise. For that was the size of the 
crowd that packed the space age-looking Roy Thomson Hall in Toronto late last 
night to watch the two ideological foes – when it comes to religion – spar and 
trade verbal blows.

The occasion was part of the Munk Debate series, organised by the Aurea 
Foundation group, and the motion was simply: "Be it resolved, religion is a 
force for good in the world".

Both men were unabashedly stalwart in their positions. Hitchens, one of the 
leading "new atheists" and author of the hit book God Is Not Great, slammed 
religion as nothing more than supernatural gobbledegook that caused untold 
misery throughout human history. "Once you assume a creator and a plan it make 
us subjects in a cruel experiment," Hitchens said before causing widespread 
laughter by comparing God to "a kind of divine North Korea".

Blair, perhaps not surprisingly, was a little less forthright. On the backfoot 
for much of the debate he kept returning to his theme that many religious 
people all over the world were engaged in great and good works. They did that 
because of their faith, he argued, and to slam all religious people as ignorant 
or evil was plain wrong. "The proposition that religion is unadulterated poison 
is unsustainable," he said. Blair called religion at its best "a benign 
progressive framework by which to live our lives".

Throughout the 90-minute debate Hitchens seemed to have the crowd's sympathy. 
That might have been to do with his ill appearance due to cancer, but was far 
more likely to be down to the sharpness of his verbal barbs and the fact that 
57% of the audience already agreed with his sceptical position according to a 
pre-debate poll, while just 22% agreed with Blair's side. The rest were 
undecided.

But the true winner of the debate was most likely the organisers. The 
high-profile debaters and controversial subject matter ensured not only a 
packed hall but an overflow location where people who could not get tickets 
were able to watch it on TV monitors. Tickets sold out weeks ago and were 
selling on eBay for several times their cover price. The debate was also 
trailed on the front pages of some Canadian newspapers and covered by local 
television.

It even attracted a small but vocal knot of anti-Iraq war protestors accusing 
Blair of war crimes. Demonstrators unveiled placards that read "Arrest Blair" 
and "War criminals not welcome here", proving that, as with the merits of 
religion, some arguments are unlikely to ever be settled with a single night's 
debate.
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