Ho oh. Kamu tahu tha? Punya sumber? Ga? lalu kalau ga punya sumber kamu ngambil darfi mana? Langit biru? Hoax bukan? Lalu bayi-bayi yg dibunuhin? Atau racun yg dimasukkan ke susu bayi? Hoax juga? Itulah kalau uteg sak tithit tiung.
nT yg kafir (alias ga bertuhan) ga autorais tereak-tereak demokrasi. Jelaskan? Kamu yg sudah condong thuyuk-thuyuk tinggal menunggu terbenam, dikasih 1 suara. Bayi dan muda-mudi yg adalah juga WN syah (dan terbanyak), karena dibatasi usia ga dikasih hak suara. Sedangkan masa mereka masih jauh dan panjang namun sudah ditentukan pengambil keputusan dimana mereka jadi penonton. Demikiankah demokrasi? --- In [email protected], "Jusfiq" <kesayangan.allah@...> wrote: > > > Dia percaya saja dengan hoax tentang bayi yang dibiki sup... > > > --- In [email protected], "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ wrote: > > > > Yg bullshit apa-siapa? Suara tuhan, rakyat, demokrasi apa @widura? > > Kok lalu emosional gitu? > > Kekekekek ................. > > > > Kaum ateist karena ga bertuhan ga berhak berdemokrasi, lalu milih > > komunisme, lalu mbunuhin rakyat yg seharusnya dilindungi. Ga > > tanggung-tanggung, 20 juta! Belum lagi yg warga dan petinggi Polandia yg > > dikres (atas persetujuan) Beria. Hingga sekarangpun, karena ga mengenal > > dosa, bayi banyak yg dibunuhin atau dibuat sup, di RRC. Atau ngisi susu > > bayi dg racun. > > > > BOT > > Sembunyi di balik demi menegakkan demokrasi namun semata menutupi ambisi > > keserakahannya kekuasaan dan menenggak minyak bumi, semua orang tahu. > > Termasuk yg menggulingkan rezimnya, katanya kediktatoran, Saddam Hussen. > > Info dan data palsu ga dianggep. > > > > Demi memegang tampuk kekuasaan, ga segan mbelejedi Edward Kennedy. Nama > > dia ini bersama Jo Mary Kopechne selalu mencuat menjelang kampanye > > pemilihan presiden Amerika, dan lalu redup menghilang bersama pembatalan > > pencalonan dirinya sbg presiden USA. > > Atau demi merengguk kekuasaan secara demokratis, ada saingan terbunuh. > > (nDeboost ga bilang pembunuhan terencana) Lihat saja nasibnya Bob Kenedy > > yg di dor menjelang (atau ditengah) kampanye. Atau kakaknya, JFK. Yg > > paling konyol, main sadappun halal. Lihat Mr Nixon. Kini, berhubung Mr > > Obama dari kel. (pernah) Islam dan akan mencalonkan presiden USA lagi, > > pemblejedan mulai di ramaikan. Dulu sampai sekolahnya yg sudah puluhan > > tahun ditinggalkan, ga lupa di investigasi. Jadi 1001 cara halal atau ga > > dimainkan demi demokrasi. > > > > Di Indonesia, yg namanya demokrasi spt milih kucing dalam karung. Rakyat > > disodori nama dan potret calon yg kelak (bila terpilih) mewakilinya. > > Public Figure non partai jangan harap bisa nimbrung. Lalu (di Indonesia > > terutama), kalau sdh terpilih niatnya cuma bagaimana memakai, "legally", > > uang rakyat. > > > > Demikiankah yang namanya demokrasi? Kenapa ada pembatasan yg bayi, > > muda-mudi hingga usia tertrentu ga boleh punya suara? > > --- In [email protected], "widura" <a.widura@> wrote: > > > > > > Bullshit itu suara tuhan...pembohongan publik...demokrasi adalah alat > > kontrol kekuasaan agar tidak menjadi diktator...mereka yg memanfaatkan > > subject fiktif yg disebut tuhan cuma memanfaatkan kebodohan rakyat untuk > > melanggengkan kekuasaannya....dan mereka yg munafik bilang anti > > demokrasi tapi memanfaatkannya adalah penghianat keyakinan mereka > > sendiri... > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 05:46:04 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Bahrain: Is a U.S. Ally Torturing Its People? > > > > > > "...Ulama lah penyambung suara Tuhan.." > > > Ulama Insya Allah adalah diantara mereka yang meneruskan yang > > > difirmankan Allah swt kepada Rasulul-Nya, termasuk yg terakhir, > > Muhammad > > > saw. Dilain tempat mungkin namanya lain. > > > > > > Kalau pastur-nun-pendeta penyambung apa? > > > > > > "...PKS partai islam juga ikutan bagiin amplop koq kalo kampanye.. " > > > Nah, ga lupa kan para ateist-bencong-crosstian dst ngasih embel-embel > > > Islam? Padahal ga ditambahpun kebanyakan sdh tahu. > > > > > > BOT > > > "..Ustadz Baasyir juga ga setuju sama demokrasi yg katanya ciptaan > > kafir > > > itu.." > > > > > > Nah, bagaimana demokrasi menurut anda? Apa selisih dari yg nDeboost > > > postingkan? > > > > > > Adakah nT berpegangan sama "suara rakyat suara Tuhan" sbg representasi > > > demokrasi? > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "widura" a.widura@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Ustadz Baasyir juga ga setuju sama demokrasi yg katanya ciptaan > > kafir > > > itu..Ulama lah penyambung suara Tuhan..PKS partai islam juga ikutan > > > bagiin amplop koq kalo kampanye.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:30:28 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Bahrain: Is a U.S. Ally Torturing Its > > People? > > > > > > > > Selama ini, puluhan tahun, ga ada gesekan antara Khalifah dg A.S > > > > Kepentingan A.S untuk operasi utk wilayah teluk dinegara pulau ini > > > > diakomodir dan secuilpun ga terusik oleh Khalifah. Yg relatif kecil, > > > utk > > > > bule atau yg suka bermabuk ria oleh Kahlifah di Manama disediakan > > > hotel > > > > dimana alcoholic beverage di halalkan. Yg diharamkan justru, setiap > > > hari > > > > Kamis pagi dimana rakyat bisa menjadi tamu Khalifah adalah > > diantaranya > > > > kamera. Dimana negara (Kristen) di dunia ini, mingguan, rakyatnya > > bisa > > > > tatap muka dg petinggi puncak? Berkeluh kesah misalnya minta rumah? > > > Mau > > > > sekolah? Berobat? Gratis, tis. Kalau memang belum punya rumah dan ga > > > > mampu beli, tinggal lapor dan nunggu giliran dan atau prioritas. > > > Kurang > > > > apa? Mau mutiara, kasarnya tinggal nyelam. "Gesekan" yg ada biasanya > > > > 1x/tahun saat muslim syiah memperingati "hari assura" dimana banyak > > yg > > > > berparade dijalan-jalan sambil menzalimi diri mereka sendiri hingga > > > > berdarah-darah. Sesuatu yg Allah swt pun tidak memperbolehkannya. > > (Di > > > > Filipina tradisi mirip memperingat Jumat Agung juga terjadi, malah > > ada > > > > yg pakai disalib segala). > > > > Mungkin menurut sebagian yg berambisi, ga demokratis. > > > > > > > > Semoga bermanfaat. > > > > > > > > PS > > > > Tadi pagi kepada @sunny_ambon juga sdh tak sampaikan. Demokrasi > > > intinya > > > > adalah suara rakyat suara tuhan. (Jadi ateist bukan rakyat). Di > > > > Indonesia, suara tuhan kebanyakan ditukar amplop. Juga saat promosi, > > > > diri (meski di Amerika-pun), saingan boleh "ditelanjangi" hingga > > kalau > > > > mungkin jera, ga berani nongol dimuka umum. Contohnya mendiang > > Edward > > > > Kennedy vs Mary Jo Kopechne. Trakhir Mr Obama yg kini disibukkan dg > > > isu > > > > kewarganegaraan. Jadi siapa pinter ngomong, punya duit dst bisa > > > membeli, > > > > eh mempengaruhi rakyat utk milih. Belum lagi sponsor maupun > > > intimidasi. > > > > Jadi demikianlah lk-nya yg namanya demokrasi. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sunny" ambon@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2065198,00.html?xid=fblike > > > > > > > > > > Bahrain: Is a U.S. Ally Torturing Its People? > > > > > By Karen Leigh Thursday, Apr. 14, 2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Relatives film bruises on the body of Ali Isa Saqer, 31, as he is > > > > washed for burial, April 10, 2011. Saqer was one of three > > > > anti-government detainees the Interior Ministry has said died in > > > police > > > > custody in the past week. The ministry said Saqer died after > > "creating > > > > chaos at the detention center." > > > > > > > > > > On March 17, Ibrahim Shareef, the head of the anti-government > > > activist > > > > movement Waad, was snatched from his home at gunpoint by what his > > > family > > > > describes as Bahraini security forces. Thrown into a waiting sport > > > > utility vehicle, he was driven off into the night. Today he's still > > > > missing, whereabouts unknown. > > > > > > > > > > As the island kingdom's Sunni regime continues to crack down on > > > > anti-government activists and prominent Shi'ites, Shareef and more > > > than > > > > 460 others are believed to be in government custody. New arrests > > > happen > > > > daily in the country, which is home base of the U.S. Navy's Fifth > > > Fleet. > > > > Bahrain was designated an official Non-NATO ally in October 2001, > > > after > > > > the 9/11 attacks on America. (See TIME's exclusive photos of the > > > > crackdown in Bahrain.) > > > > > > > > > > While there have been wild rumors of the whereabouts of the > > arrested > > > > dissidents, the likely truth is dire enough. Nearly all may be held > > in > > > > prisons around Bahrain, with an unknown number undergoing > > questioning > > > > and torture. On Wednesday, opposition party al-Wefaq claimed that at > > > > least four detainees had been killed since April 2, from injuries > > > > sustained from police-inflicted torture. Human Rights Watch says > > > another > > > > three died in March, including one man who arrived in custody with > > > knees > > > > blown out by ammunition fired at close range. > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, press scrutiny of the regime of King Hamad bin Isa > > > > al-Khalifa has been severely hampered. Foreign media are largely > > shut > > > > out of the country; and Mansur al-Jamri, the editor of Wefaq's > > > newspaper > > > > al Wasat, sits in custody alongside other journalists and bloggers. > > > > "There are concerns that heightened restrictions on international > > > press > > > > and the levels of intimidation among much of the Shi'a community > > will > > > > prevent important information from getting out," says Jane > > Kinninmont, > > > > senior research fellow for the Middle East and North Africa at > > Chatham > > > > House. "Many people are scared that talking to the international > > media > > > > or human rights groups will endanger them or their families." > > > > > > > > > > The result has been catastrophic for the opposition. Based on > > > accounts > > > > from Bahrainis who were taken into custody in the revolution's > > earlier > > > > days, the treatment of prisoners can be brutal. The corpses of > > recent > > > > alleged victims may be evidence of torture as well. According to > > Human > > > > Rights Watch, the body of a 31-year-old Shi'ite activist named Ali > > > Issa > > > > Saqer bore "signs of horrific abuse." The organization says the > > other > > > > bodies displayed signs that they too had met a "violent end." (See > > > > pictures of government troops routing protesters from Pearl Square.) > > > > > > > > > > Bahrain's Interior Ministry says that Saqer died in a jailhouse > > > rumble > > > > that got out of hand; it claims two others died while in custody > > from > > > > complications from sickle-cell anemia. But while the disease is > > common > > > > in Bahrain, neither victim had shown symptoms of carrying it > > > pre-arrest. > > > > "I very much fear there will be more death because there is no > > > > transparency in all this," says Joe Stork, deputy director for the > > > > Middle East and North Africa at Human Rights Watch. "We're not > > seeing > > > > where they're being held, or their names, and it's these kinds of > > > > conditions that make for torture and brutality and death." > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't take much to get arrested in Bahrain these days, as the > > > > country operates under a reign of terror. People can be taken into > > > > custody for any number of reasons: speaking out against the King or > > > > vague association with activist groups (offenses can include > > carrying > > > a > > > > Bahraini flag, deemed a symbol of the anti-government movement). > > They > > > > are routinely hauled out of their cars at police checkpoints after > > > being > > > > identified as Shi'a. Once jailed, they reportedly face interrogators > > > > bent on getting them to incriminate themselves, even for nonviolent > > > > political association. The regime is taking extreme measures to > > > > extinguish any flicker of rebellion. "The hard line faction of the > > > > ruling family is [eliminating] any and all forms of political > > > dissent," > > > > says Stork. "There are still raids into villages every night. It's > > > > punishment, creating a state of fear, so that no one will stick out > > > > their head and raise their voice." (See "Has Bahrain's Opposition > > > Thrown > > > > In the Towel?") > > > > > > > > > > In Manama, those who have been arrested at gunpoint and let go > > tell > > > of > > > > being bound by their hands and feet with cables tied so tight blood > > > > circulation is cut off; they described being gagged and blindfolded > > > for > > > > days. According to HRW, the regime has, in the past, used > > > electro-shock > > > > devices. These include cattle prods and stun guns, which immobilize > > > > victims' bodies and leave visible marks. > > > > > > > > > > Once the torture ends, jailhouse conditions are still brutal. One > > > > leading activist spent six months in prison, in a cell he described > > as > > > > being "not much wider" than a bath towel. He was allowed so little > > > > contact with the outside world that towards the end of his > > > imprisonment, > > > > the family was unsure if he was still alive. 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