Jadi Abbas Amin tidak bisa membantah bahwa apa yang dilakukan orang Islam meanstream terahdap Jemaah Ahmadiyah memang tidak bertentangan dengan ajaran agama Islam. --- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@...> wrote: > > Jangan ngelamun dan NGERAMAL ! Makanya ELO mendingan jadi tukang ngeramal aja > dech ! Jadi DUKUN gi dech ! > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > Hehehe... jadi kalo hukum syariat islam berlaku di Indonesia dan ngebantai > > orang Ahmadiyah itu adalah sah nurut hukum syariat islam itu, maka lu > > ngedukung pembantaian tsb krn hukumnya ngedukung. Gitu kan? > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > >To: [email protected] > > >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:01 AM > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in > > > > > > > > > > > >Secara HUKUM saya sudh menentang suatu pembantaian. > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Abbas Amin udah bilang terang2an bhw dia netral ngeliat orang Islam > > >> ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah. Artinya, Abbas Amin ga nentang sama sekali > > >> atas pembantaian di Cikeungsi itu. > > >> > > >> Hehehe.... Abbas Amin udah ngasih liat gimana tampang aslinya. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >________________________________ > > >> >From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > >> >To: [email protected] > > >> >Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:00 PM > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >à> > >> >Adab Abbas Amin ini betul-beul sudah adab binatang.. > > >> > > > >> >Tidak tahu mau bikin apa dihadapan mayat orang Ahmadiyah yang sudah > > >> >bergelimpangan dan penindasan yang dialami orang Ahmadiyah. > > >> > > > >> >--- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> 1. Aku gak tahu persisnya kapan dan dimana ? Koik enak saja kau > > >> >> bilang aku ngeliat ? > > >> >> 2. Aku juga gak tahu persisnya apa yang mereka itu ributkan ! > > >> >> 3. Sebelum aku ikut campur; kan sudah ditangani oleh Hamba Hukum di > > >> >> NKRI !? Apa yang bisa saya perbuat !? Apa kau punya IDE Hebat; yang > > >> >> nanti akan membuat aku seperti SUPERMAN !? > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Hehehe... jadi lu netral ngeliat orang Ahmadiyah dibantai orang > > >> >> > Islam sesama lu. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Emang koq, paling aman adalah orang kayak lu, sok suci, tp diam aja > > >> >> > ngeliatin sodara lu ngebantai orang lain sambil cuap2 ngebela > > >> >> > sodara lu yg ngebantai itu, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Beda lu dgn tukang bantai itu adalah si tukang bantai itu nunjukin > > >> >> > keIslamannya secara terus terang dgn ngebantai, sementara lu nipu > > >> >> > spy orang ga sadar dirinya akan dibantai oleh sodara lu tukang > > >> >> > bantai itu. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >________________________________ > > >> >> > >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > >> >> > >To: [email protected] > > >> >> > >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:48 AM > > >> >> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese > > >> >> > >army' in Darfur > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >Ãâà> > >> >> > >Kok kesimpulan kamu GOBLOK banget sih !? Masa kata2 saya yang > > >> >> > >netral dianggap gapapa bunuh orang !? Dasar ! Kalau tak bisa > > >> >> > >menyimpulkan dak usah nulis lah ! mendingan kamu duduk saja > > >> >> > >dipojokan sambil cengar cengir ! > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> Jadi asal lu ngerasa orang lain itu bukan Islam, maka gpp > > >> >> > >> ngebantai yg ga Islam > > >> >> > >> itu, bukan? > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> ________________________________ > > >> >> > >> From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > >> >> > >> To: [email protected] > > >> >> > >> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:27:06 PM > > >> >> > >> Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese > > >> >> > >> army' in Darfur > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> Itu kelompok mayoritas merasa bahwa ahmadiyyah bukan Islam ! nah > > >> >> > >> kalau demikian > > >> >> > >> makin banyak penyeleweng Islam bukan ?! > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > Hehehe.... orang Ahmadiyah dibantai tuh oleh sesama muslim. > > >> >> > >> > Apa orang Islam > > >> >> > >> > tukang bantainya ga ngikutin jalan yg benar? > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > ________________________________ > > >> >> > >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > >> >> > >> > To: [email protected] > > >> >> > >> > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 4:10:52 PM > > >> >> > >> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by > > >> >> > >> > Sudanese army' in > > >> >> > >> Darfur > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > Bukan ! Mereka berbunuh karena perang antar kelompok ! > > >> >> > >> > seperti DULU Khatolik lawan Protestan ! > > >> >> > >> > Maka Tuhan pun menurunkan azabnya kepada mereka yang saling > > >> >> > >> > berperang antar > > >> >> > >> >umat > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > Islam ! Mana mereka maju bukan !? Karena apa ? Karena mereka > > >> >> > >> > sudah tidak > > >> >> > >> > mengikuti lagi jalan yang BENAR ! > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > --- In [email protected], "bukan.pedanda" > > >> >> > >> > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > Beda orang Islam berbunuhan, seperti antara syiah dan sunni, > > >> >> > >> > > atau membunuh > > >> >> > >> > >seperti yang dilakukan olen al-Qaeda dll. adalah bahwa mereka > > >> >> > >> > >membunuh karena > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >alasan teologis, sesuai dengan pemahaman ajaran mereka. > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > --- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> > > >> >> > >> > > wrote: > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > Bunuh membunuh bukan hanya di Islam saja Bung ! Sudah > > >> >> > >> > > > begitu, kalau dia > > >> >> > >> > >BENAR2 Uslamnya ; maka pembunuhan akan dijaga benar karena > > >> >> > >> > >itu termasuk DOSA > > >> >> > >> > >BESAR ! kalaupun dilakukan mungkin saja dia sudah keluar > > >> >> > >> > >Islamnya !!! > > >> >> > >> > > > Jadi memang Islam rahmat lil alamiin. Orangnya !??? Pasti > > >> >> > >> > > > saja banyak juga > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >yang maling TV dlsb. Tapi bukan karena Islamnya ; tetapi > > >> >> > >> > >kehabisan duit karena > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >sudah dirampok ORANG KAPIR !!!! > > >> >> > >> > > > Orang Kapir anak buah DAWKINS itulah penyebab segala > > >> >> > >> > > > kerusuhan didunia ini > > >> >> > >> >! > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > --- In [email protected], "bukan.pedanda" > > >> >> > >> > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Dimana-mana orang Islam itu demen membunuh.. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Dan masih ada orang Islam yang sanggup bilang agama > > >> >> > >> > > > > Islam itu rahmat > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > --- > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Africa > > >> >> > >> > > > > Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in Darfur > > >> >> > >> > > > > Dozens of fighters reported dead in west, as monitoring > > >> >> > >> > > > > group says > > >> >> > >> > >satellite > > >> >> > >> > > > > images show north's army massing in south. > > >> >> > >> > > > > Last Modified: 19 Jun 2011 23:57 > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Fighters from the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) in Darfur, > > >> >> > >> > > > > in the west of > > >> >> > >> > >Sudan, > > >> >> > >> > > > > have said that the north's Sudan Armed Forces (SAF) has > > >> >> > >> > > > > attacked them > > >> >> > >> >with > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >war > > >> >> > >> > > > > planes and military vehicles. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The SLA said the attacks resulted in 27 deaths, 40 > > >> >> > >> > > > > injuries and the > > >> >> > >> > >displacement > > >> >> > >> > > > > of thousands of people. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The reports come as satellite images appeared to show > > >> >> > >> > > > > the north Sudanese > > >> >> > >> > > > > military massing in the southern border state of > > >> >> > >> > > > > Kordofan, a monitoring > > >> >> > >> > >group > > >> >> > >> > > > > said. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Southern Kordofan, on the ill-defined border with the > > >> >> > >> > > > > south, is among > > >> >> > >> > >several > > >> >> > >> > > > > flashpoints as Sudan's south prepares to secede on July > > >> >> > >> > > > > 9, a move > > >> >> > >> >analysts > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >say > > >> >> > >> > > > > could embolden fighters in other parts of the country. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The SAF confirmed it had clashed with fighters in Darfur > > >> >> > >> > > > > on Sunday in > > >> >> > >> the > > >> >> > >> > > > > mountainous Jabel Marra region, but said it had not used > > >> >> > >> > > > > aircraft and > > >> >> > >> the > > >> >> > >> > > > > fighting had not displaced civilians. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Ibrahim al-Helwu, a spokesperson for SLA, the said the > > >> >> > >> > > > > violence began > > >> >> > >> >when > > >> >> > >> > > > > government troops advanced from the Darfur settlements > > >> >> > >> > > > > of Kas and Nyala. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > He said 27 people, including 19 civilians, were killed > > >> >> > >> > > > > and about 40 > > >> >> > >> > wounded > > >> >> > >> > > > > after an assault by land troops as well as Antonov and > > >> >> > >> > > > > MiG aircraft. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > "From the morning, the government started to attack," > > >> >> > >> > > > > Helwu said, > > >> >> > >> >speaking > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >by > > >> >> > >> > > > > phone from Paris. "More than 10,000 civilians are > > >> >> > >> > > > > displaced from this > > >> >> > >> > >area". > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The northern army said the fighting in the Jabel Marra > > >> >> > >> > > > > region had caused > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > an > > >> >> > >> > > > > unconfirmed number of casualties on both sides and that > > >> >> > >> > > > > no civilians had > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >been > > >> >> > >> > > > > harmed. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Violence in Darfur, where mostly non-Arab fighters are > > >> >> > >> > > > > fighting > > >> >> > >> >government > > >> >> > >> > > > > troops and largely Arab armed groups, has fallen from > > >> >> > >> > > > > its peak in 2003 > > >> >> > >> >and > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >2004, > > >> >> > >> > > > > but a surge in attacks since December has forced tens of > > >> >> > >> > > > > thousands to > > >> >> > >> > flee. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The International Criminal Court has issued an arrest > > >> >> > >> > > > > warrant for Omar > > >> >> > >> > >Hassan > > >> >> > >> > > > > al-Bashir, the Sudanese president, on charges of > > >> >> > >> > > > > masterminding genocide > > >> >> > >> >and > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >war > > >> >> > >> > > > > crimes in Darfur. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Khartoum refuses to recognise the court. The UN says as > > >> >> > >> > > > > many as 300,000 > > >> >> > >> > >people > > >> >> > >> > > > > have died during the conflict in Darfur. Khartoum puts > > >> >> > >> > > > > the death toll at > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >10,000. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Thousands dispaced > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The Satellite Sentinel Project (SSP), which monitors > > >> >> > >> > > > > Sudan, said on > > >> >> > >> >Sunday > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >that > > >> >> > >> > > > > new imagery from Friday showed that the SAF controlled > > >> >> > >> > > > > Kadugli, the > > >> >> > >> >capital > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >of > > >> >> > >> > > > > Southern Kordofan, and that thousands of civilians had > > >> >> > >> > > > > been displaced. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The images "show a massing of SAF artillery, light > > >> >> > >> > > > > vehicles and heavy > > >> >> > >> > >transports > > >> >> > >> > > > > of the kinds used to carry tanks, troops, and > > >> >> > >> > > > > munitions," it said. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Fighting between the SAF and southern-aligned groups has > > >> >> > >> > > > > spread across > > >> >> > >> >the > > >> >> > >> > > > > north-run oil state since June 5. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Tens of thousands of people have fled the area, > > >> >> > >> > > > > according to the UN. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Al-Sawarmi Khaled, an SAF spokesperson, said: "We are > > >> >> > >> > > > > now fighting harder > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >to > > >> >> > >> > > > > control all the area in Southern Kordofan." > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The SSP, Set up last year by Hollywood actor George > > >> >> > >> > > > > Clooney and other > > >> >> > >> > >activists, > > >> >> > >> > > > > says it seeks to head off renewed fighting and > > >> >> > >> > > > > atrocities in Sudan by > > >> >> > >> > >publishing > > >> >> > >> > > > > commercial satellite images collated and analysed with > > >> >> > >> > > > > the help of a UN > > >> >> > >> > >agency. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Southern Kordofan, the main oil-producing state that > > >> >> > >> > > > > will be left in the > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >north > > >> >> > >> > > > > after the south secedes, is home to thousands of > > >> >> > >> > > > > fighters who fought > > >> >> > >> > >against > > >> >> > >> > > > > Khartoum during the last civil war, many of them from > > >> >> > >> > > > > the Nuba mountains > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >region. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Officials with the south's dominant Sudan People's > > >> >> > >> > > > > Liberation Movement > > >> >> > >> > >(SPLA) > > >> >> > >> > > > > say clashes started when the north tried to disarm > > >> >> > >> > > > > fighters there. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Northern officials blame southern-aligned groups for > > >> >> > >> > > > > provoking the > > >> >> > >> > fighting > > >> >> > >> > > > > after an official from the north's ruling National > > >> >> > >> > > > > Congress Party was > > >> >> > >> > named > > >> >> > >> > > > > winner of a state gubernatorial election last month. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > In Khartoum, 16 political activists said they were > > >> >> > >> > > > > detained for about > > >> >> > >> >four > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >hours > > >> >> > >> > > > > on Sunday after attempting to stage a demonstration > > >> >> > >> > > > > against violence in > > >> >> > >> > >Southern > > >> >> > >> > > > > Kordofan. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > The south voted to secede in a January referendum > > >> >> > >> > > > > promised in a 2005 > > >> >> > >> >peace > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > >deal > > >> >> > >> > > > > that ended decades of civil war. > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > At least seven different armed groups are also fighting > > >> >> > >> > > > > the southern > > >> >> > >> Juba > > >> >> > >> > > > > government, according to the UN. > > >> >> > >> > > > > Source: > > >> >> > >> > > > > Agencies > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
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