Orang Islam Indonesia tidak tahu apa arti kenikmatan yang bisa didapat dinegeri 
seperti Australi atau Norwegia..

Jaminan kesehaan yang aduhai,jaminan sosial yang aduhai...

--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@...> wrote:
>
> Aneh.
> Bekas kolega saya yang orang Nepal (orang Hindu) punya pandangan yang sama 
> terhadap orang-orang yang berasal dari Pakistan Barat Laut di mana 
> orang-orangnya dinilai berpendidikan rendah, konservatif (pengikut Wahhabi) 
> dan miskin karena daerah mereka tidak punya sumber daya alam. Dia pernah 
> bilang daerah tersebut dipenuhi oleh madrasah-madrasah.
> 
> Norwegia rupanya terlalu humanis dengan mau menerima orang-orang yang 
> sebenarnya menjadi beban negara. Australia memprioritaskan penerimaan 
> orang-orang yang terdidik di mana ada cukup banyak orang-orang asal Pakistan 
> yang mendapat visa PR dan saya punya beberapa kolega asal sana juga. Mungkin 
> karena baiknya mereka itu hingga peringkat negara ternyaman untuk dihuni di 
> dunia memang dipegang oleh Norwegia, sementara Australia hanya pada peringkat 
> kedua.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >
> > Jadi si Breivik ini ga suka dgn kebijaksanaan pemerintah Norwegia yg 
> > terlalu ngasih hati ke orang Islam. Dan memang orang islam di Norwegia dan 
> > negara barat lainnya itu selalu bikin masalah ga cuma sekedar masalah 
> > kriminal dan sosial, tp jg bertujuan unt nguasai negara yg udah nampung 
> > mereka.
> > 
> > Cara si Breivik ini salah, dan dia emang dungu. Tp krn kebejadan orang 
> > Islam dan ajaran Islam, akan muncul banyak orang yg nentang Islam dgn cara 
> > dungu dan biadab spt si Breivik ini.
> > 
> > Lebih dungu lagi, akan banyak orang nganggap si Breivik ini bejad, tp 
> > mereka ga berpendapat sama kalo pelakunya orang Islam.
> > 
> > 
> > http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2011/07/norway-it-was-attack-against-labour.html
> > 
> > 
> > Sunday, July 24, 2011 
> > Norway: "It was an attack against the Labour Party"    
> > Norway: "It was an attack against the Labour Party"
> > 
> > Via VG (Norwegian):
> > 
> > According
> >  to Geir Lippestad, Breivik's lawyer, Breivik went to Utøya to warn the 
> > Labour Party that Judgement Day will come if the party won't change its 
> > policies.  He wanted to hit the Labour party and its recruitment as hard
> >  as possible.   According to him, Labour party people were 'Maxists'.
> > 
> > According to Lippestad, Breivik thinks that a violent revolution is 
> > gruesome but 
> > necessary.  "It was an attack against the Labour Party.  He thinks he 
> > was on a mission."
> > 
> > Q: Why did he use a method which was previously linked to Islamists?
> > 
> > "He
> >  says he saw there was no way except for using violence.  He tried all 
> > other ways.  He wrote letters to different newspapers about his 
> > thoughts, but didn't get the letters printed."
> > 
> > Lippestad says that Breivik hates many, and that includes all social 
> > institutions.
> > 
> > Via RT (h/t Tundra Tabloids):
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2VaS54zJVE&feature=player_embedded
> > 
> > 
> > Via EuroNews:
> > 
> > “I think this is an attack with a clear political message for the Labour  
> > Party and the government of Stoltenberg, who is seen by the attacker or  
> > attackers as too soft and accommodating on immigration and Islam.
> > --------------------------------------
> > 
> > Breivik on Muslims
> > 
> > Reuters has excepts from Anders Behring Breivik's manifesto:
> > 
> > 
> > "I don't hate Muslims at all. I acknowledge that there are magnificent 
> > Muslim individuals in Europe. In fact, I have had several Muslim friends 
> > over the years, some of which I still respect. This does not mean 
> > however that I will accept an Islamic presence in Europe. Muslim 
> > individuals who do not assimilate 100% within 2020 will be deported as 
> > soon as we manage to seize power."
> > >
> > More quotes from the Washington Times:
> > Our
> >  source said that Mr. Breivik “seemed completely normal” at first though
> >  clearly highly focused on the issue of Islam in Europe. In a brief 
> > introductory message on July 11, Mr. Breivik said that he had “been 
> > working full time on a compendium about the Islamisation of Europe now 
> > for almost two years” entitled "September 11th, 2083."
> > 
> > The next 
> > day in a longer message he began by observing that “the U.S. is much 
> > better off than Western Europe, that's for sure. I'm from Oslo btw,” he 
> > continued, “which [has] about 20% Muslims now. The Muslim 
> > ‘ghettofication process’ on the east side of my city is pretty radical. 
> > Most of these Muslims are religiously conservative non-educated 
> > individuals from NW Pakistan and Somalia which makes it even more 
> > challenging. The only positive aspect I guess is that they live in their
> >  own enclave (parallel society) with little to no interaction with 
> > Norwegian society.”
> > 
> > (...)
> > 
> > “A few years ago… I had 
> > different priorities in life,” he wrote, “me, myself and I.” He said 
> > that his “best friend for many years (in my childhood) was a Pakistani. 
> > He resented everything about Norway and Norwegians (me being the 
> > exception). I have known a lot of Muslims over the years which triggered
> >  my interest for Islam. … I sold my company a few years back which 
> > allowed me to focus full time on the current compendium I'm writing; 
> > ‘September 11th, 2083.’ I’ve lived quite ascetic since then.”
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>




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