http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2011/1071/op51.htm
3 - 9 November 2011
Issue No. 1071
Opinion
Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875
The Islamist groups and the economic system
The Islamist groups' understanding of economics and modern finance is 
fundamentally flawed from a religious point of view and may imperil Egypt's 
future, writes Ahmad Naguib Roushdy* 

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Now that the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) has set the end 
of November for elections for the new People's Assembly, it is natural for many 
jurists, sociologists, economists, bankers and businessmen to ponder how the 
system of government, social life, banking and business might look if the 
Islamist groups, individually or collectively, win a majority of the seats in 
the new parliament.

Although most Egyptians refuse to accept this idea, they could be disappointed. 
It is always wise to remember the Arabic saying, wataaty al-riahu bema la 
tashtahi assafon, meaning that the winds bring undesirable things to navigating 
ships. The Islamist groups are mostly active in rural and urban areas where 
millions of illiterate people are under the impression that if they vote for 
secular parties, this could mean the end of Islam in Egypt. If this happens, we 
should expect enormous changes in every corner of Egypt that could spread to 
other Islamic countries. 

In my previous four articles in Al-Ahram Weekly since the start of the Egyptian 
revolution, I have tackled some of the aspects of the constitutional and social 
systems that the Islamists intend to impose on people, including the loss of 
democracy and the revisiting of the old Muslim caliphate in a new and deformed 
shape. Here, I would like to touch on economics and banking transactions under 
Sharia rules and how the Islamist groups could apply them.

The core element in this regard is the interest paid on savings and loans and 
on deposits issued by banks to individuals and corporate investors. The 
Islamists consider interest as reba, meaning usury, which is forbidden by the 
Quran. The Egyptian civil law recognises interest on loans, and when a monetary 
obligation in any contract is not fulfilled in due time, four per cent in civil 
matters and five per cent in commercial matters, with a limit of seven per cent 
if so agreed by the parties, is levied (articles 226 and 227). 

There are also contracts that the Sharia prohibits, such as al-gharar 
contracts. If interest payments and such contracts are outlawed, then the 
Egyptian economy will be turned upside down, and this will affect Egypt's 
relations with the wider world, especially with countries and organisations 
that trade or lend money to it, including the United States, the World Bank and 
the International Monetary Fund. 

Undoubtedly, usury is morally repugnant and sinful in all three religions, and 
it is forbidden by most countries' laws, even in capitalist economies. 
Contracts that are based on exploitation by one party over the other, or that 
are against public morals, are illegal or liable to be annulled or revised to 
remove the illegal element in many countries. But what exactly is reba and what 
makes a contract illegal are still matters of controversy.

Reba in Arabic means excess, and Islamic jurists consider excess to be capital 
that is not qualified to be subject to a legal return. This is reba, and it is 
forbidden in several chapters of the Quran and in the sunna of the Prophet. In 
the opinion of the jurists of the four principal Sunni sects of Islam, reba 
also takes money out of commercial transactions that could otherwise help 
invigorate the economy, in return for easy profits from loans paid with reba. 
In the opinion of those jurists, reba discourages people from being benevolent 
and doing good to others. 

The reason for forbidding reba reflects the Islamic direction to the faithful 
to do good and to abstain from exploiting others and to eliminate greed. Reba 
was common in the jahilia (the pre-Islamic era), and among Jewish tribes living 
in Al-Madina in the Hijaz where the Prophet took refuge after his immigration 
from Mecca. These tribes were deviating from the Prophet Moses's commandments. 

Some Islamic jurists also despise reba to the extent that they claim it helped 
rich countries colonise poorer ones. However, the truth is that the development 
of the banking system and liberal democracy in the West tremendously helped in 
lifting up western economies. These countries do not consider interest as 
usury. Instead, they see it as a kind of profit that the lender or the bank is 
entitled to. They follow this practice in domestic and international 
transactions. This is not the reason, either, that poor countries were 
colonised by the West. The desire for strategic security and the availability 
of natural resources were the main reasons for colonisation.

The undeniable fact is that the prosperity of the western countries, which 
enables them to control the international economy, is due to the formation of 
corporations with large amounts of capital able to employ thousands of 
professional and skilled workers in their own countries and through outsourcing 
to foreign countries where cheap labour is plentiful. They have also 
established solid banking systems that can extend loans to corporations and 
individuals to help investment in the economy. Each of the western countries 
long ago established governmental agencies, such as central banks and consumer 
protection agencies, to ensure that the corporations and banks performed 
according to the rules and offered good services to the public. With large 
amounts of capital, corporations achieved large profits even in risky projects, 
notwithstanding their being prohibited from paying interest by clergy who 
misinterpreted religious rules. 

It was not until after the European Renaissance, itself influenced by Islamic 
civilisation, that the West discovered the key to prosperity. It is also not 
true that the West does not recognise reba. Although many western countries 
permit high interest rates on some transactions, such as credit cards, these 
countries impose a maximum percentage of interest and consider anything higher 
as usury ( reba ). After the European Renaissance, the Islamic world went into 
a deep sleep, submitting itself to the teaching of conservative preachers that 
prohibited such transactions. This is one of the reasons why the Islamic 
countries' economies have crawled behind those of the western and Asian-Pacific 
countries, and why they are still doing so today.

However, there has also been a big difference in opinion among the Islamic 
jurists about reba. The difference lies not in the prohibition itself, which 
all agree with, but in which kind of reba is forbidden, especially since there 
is no explicit guidance in the Quran or sunna. The verses of the Quran that 
clearly forbid reba were the last to be revealed to the Prophet, who passed 
away before he could explain how to apply the rules. Because of that, some of 
the early Islamic jurists felt that they might need to apply the prohibition on 
reba on transactions that the rule had not been intended to cover, in order to 
ensure that they were not making a mistake.

The idea that reba is forbidden in the Sharia has been a matter of controversy 
and debate in Egypt between Muslim clergy and bankers, especially in the late 
1970s when several Islamist groups started challenging the government of the 
late president Anwar El-Sadat after his conclusion of the peace treaty with 
Israel. The debate intensified when the government, in an attempt to calm the 
Islamist groups and respond to their demand to abolish secular laws, especially 
the civil law that permits interest to be levied on transactions, set up 
committees of jurists to codify Sharia rules. The idea of codifying the Sharia 
was a good one, as it would have helped to establish unified rules that were 
available for everyone to read and the courts to apply, instead of depending on 
the thousands of opinions issued by the leaders of the four Sunni sects and 
their students, many of which were issued in places and times very different 
from our own. 

Sadat rushed things through, however, which had harmful consequences. While the 
modern civil code, introduced in October 1949, took 20 years to be drafted, and 
contains the rules to be followed in transactions and in other legal matters, 
some of its provisions borrowed from the Sharia, the codification of the Sharia 
in the 1970s was brought to a halt after the assassination of Sadat by members 
of the Al-Gamaa Al-Islamiya in 1981. 

In fact, the debate on interest and the banking system in Egypt was mislabelled 
as a debate, since it was only really the result of bickering from Islamist 
groups wanting to impose their opinions and accuse their opponents of being 
apostates. The groups refused to listen to the opinions of economists and 
banking experts. As expected, the debate merely ended in an agreement between 
the parties to disagree with each other. 

The problem today is that the Salafis and other Islamist extremists have now 
cornered themselves into a strict interpretation of the Quran and the sunna 
that departs from the path followed by the Prophet, the first four caliphs and 
the al-salafu assaleh (pious ancestors). Some of these groups, such as the 
Salafis, refuse to recognise other sources of the Sharia approved by the four 
major Sunni sects, such as al-ijtihad, al-qiyas and the interest of the 
community, and, thus, they are not "real" Salafis at all, as I showed in my 
article in the Weekly in September.

The Sharia, which is supposed to be the path towards correct living, has never 
been applied to all aspects of life in modern times, which are completely 
different in terms of scope and technology to people's needs in previous epochs 
when the Sharia was the law of the land in Islamic countries. What the 
Islamists have not understood is that Islam does not want Muslims to wrap 
themselves up in a cocoon and be isolated from the outside world. This is what 
the Quran warns against when it says, wakhalaqnakum shooba waqabaela letaarafoo 
(We have created you nations and tribes to get to know each other). This 
requires Muslims to interact and to establish political, trading and 
educational relations with other peoples of the world and other religions. 
Ironically, the West did this as far as Muslims are concerned, borrowing from 
the Islamic civilisation that extended to China, India and Spain (Al-Andalus).

It has been essential for Muslim countries to consider whether international 
economic developments and commercial customs conform with Sharia rules and try 
to review contracts, rights and obligations that the West allows. What happened 
was that Islamic jurists filled volumes on things that are permitted or 
prohibited under the Sharia and applied the rules strictly. Because the Sharia 
is the path to a good life, its main concern is to direct people to what is 
good and warn them from what is bad on the basis of the universal rule that all 
acts are permitted unless they are prohibited or are harmful. The rules are 
based on justice for all, as long as people act honestly and voluntarily in any 
transactions, contracts, rents, mortgages or lending. 

In an article in the Al-Ahram daily in June 1982, I mentioned that it would not 
have been easy for earlier Muslims to catch up with international economic 
developments because of the influence of religion on their daily lives and 
their hesitation in doing anything that may be prohibited. An example of this 
is bank interest and contracts that include risk, especially those called oqoud 
al-gharar, ( oqoud means contracts and al-gharar means risk or danger). These 
are contracts that contain risks or that deal with something that is 
accidentally or uncertainly realised. 

Classic examples given by the Islamic jurists include the sale of fish still 
under the sea, or the sale of birds in the air. The jurists tell us that these 
kinds of sales are prohibited under the sunna. A perfect example in modern 
times is selling crops in the field before harvesting them and even before 
planting seeds. In such cases, prices are fixed in terms of a lump sum, or the 
value of the crop may be estimated before harvest. This is an international 
practice in supply contracts and is followed especially in government 
procurement.

Although Islamic jurists have had different opinions on the details, they agree 
on the prohibition of gharar contracts if certain conditions apply, at least 
according to some rules in the sunna. There is nothing in the Quran that could 
indicate the prohibition of these contracts. The reason for the prohibition is 
that the profit is "accidentally realised" in the future, though some jurists 
do permit such futures contracts if there is no risk, as when a farmer sells 
his crop by the unit, such as in bushels of wheat, and not for a lump sum. 
Years of development and modern technology have enabled agricultural experts to 
estimate the size of crops before harvest in a way that matches the actual 
size, and this can make the deal legal, religiously speaking.

Futures contracts are permitted under the civil law in Egypt in cases where the 
buyer estimates his future needs and enters into contracts in order to buy for 
his own use or future resale when the price increases, such that he can avoid a 
loss if he waits to buy until after the harvest when the price may be higher or 
when the goods may not be available. This is the true application of the 
universal principle first championed by Ibn Khaldun, the famous Islamic 
historian and jurist, in his Al-Muqadema, in which he advised people to buy 
cheap and sell dear. Ibn Khaldun even called for free trade 400 years before 
Adam Smith.

The levying of bank interest is problematic, and it has always been a target of 
attack, not only for Islamist extremists, but also by moderate Islamic jurists, 
especially because of its proximity to the excess of money during the jahilia, 
which caused its prohibition in the Quran, and because of a lack of knowledge 
about banking transactions.

In the past, many Muslims could not imagine themselves dealing in transactions 
that include interest. One reason was their traditional fear of taking risks in 
the belief that the Sharia prohibits risks and dealing in transactions that 
contain reba. This made Muslims prefer to deal in transactions that guarantee 
them a legal profit, such as investing in real estate and getting a steady 
income by renting it, or putting it up for sale, which helped delay the 
creation of modern economic systems in Islamic countries, especially in the 
Middle East, and the establishment of corporations including investment and 
development banks that are able to make large investments. 

Egypt was an exception to this rule because of its strategic situation and 
resources. It was the first country in the Middle East to establish a legal 
system in 1875 and 1881 comparable to the western one, and a banking system was 
set up in 1885 when the National Bank of Egypt (NBE), the first banking 
corporation in the Middle East, was established as a commercial bank and was 
authorised to issue bank notes, including the Egyptian pound, and carry out 
other functions of a central bank. In 1960, the NBE was divided into a 
commercial bank and the Central Bank of Egypt. Many other corporations were 
established later on that contributed to Egypt's economic growth.

In the past, some Islamic jurists tried to reduce the exaggeration of their 
colleagues in adding to the list of prohibitions by permitting acts that 
benefit the Muslim community and prohibiting them if they are harmful to the 
community. These jurists were applying the al-maslaha al-mursala to serve the 
interests of the community, and a source in the Sharia was recognised by the 
early jurists in the absence of a rule in other sources. However, the Salafis 
and some others do not recognise other sources for the Sharia beyond the Quran 
and the sunna. As it appears that one country's interest could be different 
from that of another country and from time to time, jurists of the major 
Islamic sects followed the path of the early jurists in allowing the 
government, in the absence of a provision in the Quran, the sunna, or other 
sources of the Sharia, to permit an act if it benefits the interests of the 
community.

The problem has been that Islamist extremists refuse to consult banking experts 
and economists regarding banking transactions, thus deviating from the 
Prophet's teachings and the practice of the early jurists. They know very well 
that judges consult experts before ruling on a case if there are details that 
they are not familiar with. Banks and banking systems are now economic entities 
worldwide, and they contribute to economic growth. They are needed to serve 
people, and they compete with each other as long as they act honestly and 
legally and do not exploit customers. 

Moreover, they do not keep their money in safes or under floors. They invest 
their capital, composed of shares held by the public and deposits, in order to 
finance commercial and infrastructure projects that serve the public's interest 
and yield profits. The banks are thus doing a public service, and they deserve 
to be paid for that. This comes in the form of interest. When a bank needs more 
money, it invites the public to open savings accounts or it issues certificates 
of deposits to the public to buy a certain amount of money for a certain period 
of time. The bank pays interest on the savings accounts and on the certificates 
at their expiration date or every six months. Here, the bank is the debtor, but 
it is still much richer than the depositor, and one cannot consider the bank to 
be the weaker party or the depositor to have exploited it. The interest here is 
fixed in advance, required so that each party is aware of his or her rights and 
obligations. 

I call on Islamist extremists to take the time to read Muamalat al-Bounook 
wa-Ahkameha al-Shariya (roughly, Banking Transactions and Islamic Rules) by the 
late Mohamed Sayed Tantawi, former grand imam of Al-Azhar, which was published 
in 1991 when he was the Mufti of Egypt (an Islamic jurist who presides over a 
department in charge of rendering opinions on Islamic matters). 

In this work, Tantawi settles the argument regarding reba and on banking 
transactions and other types of contracts. He decided not to issue an opinion 
before consulting economists and the heads of banks. I can attest to this 
because my own late brother, Mohamed Abdel-Moneim Roushdy, chairman of the 
National Bank of Egypt at the time, informed me that when the Bank was about to 
issue certificates of deposits he met with the Mufti and they exchanged views 
on the banking system and Sharia rules on interest and reba. 

Tantawi explains how banks became economic entities essential to economic 
development, as long as they compete honestly and are just about serving the 
community. He writes that the interest of the community, al-maslaha al-mursala, 
necessitates banking transactions as long as they serve the community's 
interests, but he cautions against setting up general rules in this regard 
since each transaction should be examined individually. 

He also says that the sources of the Sharia are not just the Quran and the 
sunna, but are also other sources agreed upon by jurists, including al-ijtihad, 
al-qiyas, and al-maslaha al-mursala. Tantawi concludes that because 
international economic development makes transactions different from loans 
during the jahilia, it is necessary to consider bank loans, certificates of 
deposits and other banking transactions where the profit is fixed in advance 
legal and not contradicting the Sharia, since the fixing has no role in 
permitting or prohibiting these kinds of transactions as long as they are 
concluded with the consent of the parties involved and are clear of 
exploitation or fraud. 

Tantawi says this rule is applicable on transactions permitted in Islam, such 
as sales, rents and mortgages. It should be noted that the author also takes 
into consideration the traditions and foundations of Egyptian society, which 
might be different from those of others and need to be examined by experts in 
the field.

Finally, I also call on the government and the Higher Committee of the Ulema 
(Islamic jurists) to include this book in the reading of economics and commerce 
departments at the nation's secular universities and at Al-Azhar, in order that 
students may understand the issues with open minds. In the same way that 
Egyptians have revolted against political tyranny in order to recover their 
rights of freedom of expression, they should revolt against religious tyranny 
that affects all aspects of their lives.

* The author is an international lawyer. 


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