Emang sih, tp kalo bukannya orang kayak gua yg ngomong, lalu siapa lagi.
Ulama Islam yg tahu Quran, hadis dan tafsir ga akan ngomong bener ke umatnya, ngocehnya selalu ngikutin sikon. Krn umatnya ga tau apa2, ulama bisa ngoceh apa aja sesuai dgn yg pengen didenger oleh umatnya, bukan ngomong ajaran Islam yg bener. Asal bisa ngoceh bhs Arab dan belagak hafal ayat Quran, cukup deh buat jadi ustad kenamaan dan kaya spt si Abdulah Gymnastiar atau Jefry Bukhori. Gua bisa ngomong apa adanya ttg Islam berdasarkan apa yg ada di Quran, hadis dan tafsir tanpa ada kepentingan apa2, jadi jelas gua lbh jujur ttg Islam ketimbang ulama. Cuma orang Islam aja udah jadi dungu kayak zombie idiot krn dicuci otak selama hidupnya. >________________________________ >From: Rahwana <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:48 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia Meninggal > > > >elu ngomong sama orang bego yg cuma asal nyangap belain agamanya (islam) >tapi ngga qatam baca quran ya kaya gitu...banyak kaga taunya tapi >ngotot..taro kata ngga sampe qatam, rasa ingin tau dan nalar mikirnya aja >juga lemot.. > >2011/11/10 item abu <[email protected]> > >> ** >> >> >> Hehehe... gua ngomong pake ayat, hadis dan tafsir, lu cuma kaing2 doang. >> Siapa yg bisa lebih dipercaya? >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: Abbas <[email protected]> >> >To: [email protected] >> >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:52 AM >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia Meninggal >> > >> > >> > >> >Ternyata walaupun kau sangat itemabu; bisa juga berpikir sedikit rasionil >> Bil ! Ya kalau memang itu kesimpulanmu sendiri mari kita bicarakan Islam >> yang benar; bukan hanya kesimpulan kau yang belum tentu benar >> > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> Tolol, gua ngomong fakta yg ada ditambah dgn kesimpulan yg gua ambil >> dgn benar dan logis. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@...> >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:46 AM >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia Meninggal >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Kmu sedang embucarakan pendapat saya yang orang Islam, atau pendapatmu >> sendiri ? Kalau kamu memng sedsang mengkritik pikiran orang Islam, kenapa >> kmu tak ikuti dulu logija yng dipikirkan orang Islam; kalau mau berjalan >> sendiri sendiri artinya kamu hanya menuduh orang Islam begini begitu >> padahal tidak demikian. >> >> >Logika kamu dimana kamu berpikir bahwa orang Islam itu begitu ! >> Ternyata apa yang kmu pikirkan tidak sama dengan kenyataannya ! >> >> > >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Korsi auloh yg ada di atas air itu terletak di bawah auloh, berarti >> korsi auloh dan air itu ga ada di dlm auloh. >> >> >> >> >> >> Jadi selain auloh ada lagi korsi auloh dan air, hehehe.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:19 AM >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia Meninggal >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Alam Semesta ada didalam TUHAN >> >> >> > >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dungu, auloh itu punya korsi yg tentunya dipake buat diduduki. >> dan korsinya itu ada di atas air kayak tempat orang berak. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jadi di mana alam semesta? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >> >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 11:01 AM >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia Meninggal >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Kamu masih membayngkan Tuhan itu seperti manusia. >> >> >> >> >Duduk adalah kedudukan; dan kedudukan Allah tetap sampai kini >> yaitu meliputi seluruh alam semesta >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> auloh itu duduk di atas korsinya di atas air kayak orang lg >> berak, apa itu berarti dunia itu ada di atas korsi auloh dan di atas air jg? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 11:11 AM >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia Meninggal >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'‚ >> >> >> >> >> >Benar ! Tuhan gak ada di mana2 didunia ini ! >> >> >> >> >> >Karena dunia bukanlah tempat Tuhan tapi DUNIA ada di dlam >> Tuhan itu sendiri ! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kalo ga salah, Abbas Amin ngaku bhw auloh itu ga ada di >> mana2. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 12:22 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia Meninggal >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ah, saya kira tadinya Allah itu menurut sumber Islam >> selalu ada dimana-mana, jadi dia juga selalu ada diqemua "rumahnya" yang >> banyak waktu orang "mertamu" ke salah satu rumahnya seperti ketika upacara >> haji.. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >--- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jadi kamu aggap asal disebut rumah tuhan tuhannya harus >> ada didalam ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dasar debil ! Apakah kau tak pernah dengar masjid pun >> dimana mana disebut rumah Allah. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bahkan ada manusia yang rumahnya ad lebih dari satu ! >> Apa disetiap rumah harus ada si yang punya rumah ? Logikanya kemana kmu ini >> ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dasar memang itemabu otakmu, Debil !! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Coba keitemabuan lu itu jangan dipelihara ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Rumahnya kebanjiran, apa itu bukannya berarti auloh >> kebanjiran? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 11:00 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia >> Meninggal >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ>> >'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Dimana kamu melihat Allah kebanjiran ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> auloh ga bisa ngejaga dan ngurusin tamunya tuh, >> hehehe... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Bahkan, sampe ada acara orang mati kebanjiran di >> rumah auloh tsb. Rumah auloh kebanjiran kayak orang miskin di Indonesia, >> makanya, orang yg terus kebanjiran itu ga usah ngomel, berhubung auloh jg >> kadang bisa kebanjuran, hehehe... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >From: Sunny <ambon@> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >To: Undisclosed-Recipient@ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 4:25 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Subject: [proletar] 71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia >> Meninggal >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†>> >'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ>> > 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Refl: Mengapa mati? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> http://www.lampungpost.com/home/pencarian-berita/39-nasional/13588-71-jamaah-haji-indonesia-meninggal.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >71 Jamaah Haji Indonesia Meninggal >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Jumat, 28 October 2011 18:54 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >MEKAH (Lampost.Com): Mendekati puncak haji, >> semakin banyak jamaah haji Indonesia yang telah tiba di Saudi. Per hari >> ini, Jumat (28-10) sebanyak 87,06 persen jamaah telah tiba dari kuota >> jamaah reguler 201 ribu jamaah. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Jamaah tersebut terdiri dari 433 kloter atau >> 176.036 orang. Mereka yang sudah di Mekah 420 kloter, sisanya sedang menuju >> kota itu. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Sementara itu, jamaah yang meninggal di Saudi >> tercatat 71 orang. Sebanyak 4 orang wafat pada Kamis, 27 Oktober yaitu: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >1. Kanim, 73 tahun, kloter JKS 6 dari Kab Bekasi, >> meninggal di pondokan di Makkah. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >2. Mariyatin, 57 tahun, kloter SUB 32 dari Kab >> Nganjuk, meninggal di pondokan di Makkah. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >3. Nurseha, 58 tahun, dari Kabupaten Cirebon, >> meninggal di masjid di Makkah. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >4. Syamsiyati, 71 tahun, kloter SOC 37 dari Kab >> Bantul, meninggal di pondokan di Makkah. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Hari terakhir kedatangan jamaah jatuh tanggal 31 >> Oktober (closing date) di Bandara Jeddah pukul 24.00 WAS. Sekitar 15 kloter >> jamaah reguler Indonesia akan tiba pada hari itu di Jeddah. 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