Dan menurut Abbas Amin orang Islam yang memunuh manusia diluar perang itu denganserta merta keluar dari Islam...
Lalu yang tinggal Islam itu di Timur Tengah dan Afrika ada berapa? --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Ada orang Islam yg mati tuh, apa yg ngebunuh itu akan disebut bajingan oleh > Abbas Amin? > > Paling2 Abbas Amin akan puter2 lidah udah kehendak auloh dan serahin aja ke > yg berwenang. > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Sunny <ambon@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:44 AM > >Subject: Re: [proletar] France24: A tank tries to run over protesters in > >Saudi Arabia > > > > > > > >Ini konflik antara Suni dan Shia, jadi dalam islam saling baku hantam. Di > >Indonesia juga konflik demikian sudah mulai. Beberapa waktu silam tahun ini, > >kaum Shia di Madura dihajar oleh Suni, penganut Shia lari tunggang langgang > >mecari selamat di Surabaya. > > > >From: Bukan Pedanda > >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:49 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [proletar] France24: A tank tries to run over protesters in Saudi > >Arabia > > > >Lihat videonya yang belum basi... > > > >-- > > > >http://observers.france24.com/content/20111125-saudi-araba-tank-tries-run-over-protesters-qatif-shiite-sunni-funeral-sniper-vehicle-interior-ministry > > > >A tank tries to run over protesters in Saudi Arabia > >By Moktar B. on 25/11/2011 - 14:10 > > > >Amateur footage shows a tank deliberately trying to hit protesters in the > >eastern Saudi Arabian city of Qatif on Wednesday. Our Observer told us that > >this kind of violence is unprecedented in Saudi Arabia. Similar incidents > >have, however, recently taken place in Bahrain and Egypt. > > > >The demonstrators had gathered in the city centre for the funerals of two > >people killed during rallies last week. Security forces cracked down on > >protesters once again; two people were killed and nine injured. In a > >statement, the Interior Ministry said âthese losses took place during an > >exchange of gunfire with unidentified criminals who infiltrated the > >population and opened fire from residential areas.â According to the > >Interior Ministry, two of the injured were policemen. > > > >An armoured vehicle tries to hit protesters following the funeral of two > >protesters on Wednesday in Qatif. > > > >Since March, residents of Qatif, which is a majority Shiite city, have held > >frequent anti-government demonstrations. Shiites represent just 10 percent > >of the total population, and are considered to be heretics by the countryâs > >Sunni leaders. They are marginalised at every level: religious, political > >and social. > >"Snipers were stationed in the big water tower that can be seen in the > >background of the video" > > > >Moktar B. (not his real name) is one of our Observers in Qatif. > > > >I have been in Qatif since the start of the demonstrations and have taken > >part in most of them. What I can say is itâs unusual for security forces to > >use such violence as they did on Wednesday. As people left the cemetery > >after the two protestersâ funeral, a group of people started shouting > >anti-government slogans. Very quickly, the police moved in, as you can see > >in the images. According to my sources, the two people who died were shot at > >by snipers stationed in the big water tower that can be seen in the > >background of the video. Then a tank arrived and began to try to mow people > >down. Most people ran out of the way, but in the last three seconds, you can > >see the tank hit a man. [Editorâs Note: It is not clear from the video > >whether the tank actually hit a person or an object]. > > > >Authorities said the two people that died on Wednesday were killed in an > >exchange of fire between criminals, but I donât believe that. I know people > >who went to protest â" they are young, mostly between 20 and 30 years old. > >They are unemployed and feel marginalized by the authorities. I tried to > >find out who the leader of the movement was, but there is none. Since the > >beginning of the unrest, I havenât seen any armed protesters. > > > >All people are asking for is that their rights be respected. Since the start > >of the unrest in March, protesters have demanded that political prisoners be > >freed. They have been imprisoned without trial and for no reason, some for > >as long as 15 years. > > > >Since the start of the protests, checkpoints have been set up throughout the > >city. There are tanks, jeeps and soldiers with automatic guns. Residents do > >not understand why their movements are being limited in this way. The police > >are arresting a lot of young people, in particular. Young people spend hours > >at police checkpoints before they can enter or leave the city. Of course, > >this only fires up the youth even more.â > > > >During the funeral procession for two protesters killed on Wednesday, people > >chanted slogans against the Saudi royal family. > >Source URL: > >http://observers.france24.com/content/20111125-saudi-araba-tank-tries-run-over-protesters-qatif-shiite-sunni-funeral-sniper-vehicle-interior-ministry > > > >Links: > >[1] > >http://observers.france24.com/content/20111104-bahrain-manama-al-daih-protesters-security-clash-after-funeral-procession > >[2] > >http://observers.france24.com/content/20111125-saudi-araba-tank-tries-run-over-protesters-qatif-shiite-sunni-funeral-sniper-vehicle-interior-ministry > >[3] http://observers.france24.com/profile/208989 > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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