Hi Tobi, I just had another brief exchange with Alex privately a few days ago. As far as I understand it, his team will come up with a design idea in the next couple of weeks, but if anyone has specific desires around what they would want to communicate / include on the frontpage, please suggest it here :)
I'm obviously also interested in staying in touch about the details. Julius On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 3:40 PM Tobias Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > Heyo, > > Were there more discussions around this? I'd volunteer to act as a contact > from the Prometheus team, if that helps to keep this initiative moving > forward. > > Cheers, > Tobi > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 8:28 PM Alex Barashkov <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Prometheans, >> >> Thank you for the great introduction Julius! Our team is looking forward >> to working with you guys and creating new stunning UI. We have some vision >> of how could it look like. If you are up for the idea of redesigning the >> website, we will need to start from the content at first. What information >> do we need to put on the homepage, what’s missing in the current version? I >> have my thoughts on it however it would be good to hear your ideas. >> >> Choosing the technology is not super important at this moment, because it >> will take 1-1.5 before we complete the design, so we have time to discuss >> and test everything. >> >> We also will handle the whole implementation of the new website, to make >> sure it looks and works exactly as it was designed. >> >> It will be very great to define few people who will be able to handle >> ongoing communication with us(we won’t take too much of your time) and >> decision making. All results of different iterations of course we can share >> in the chat or via email. >> >> We very like Prometheus and what does it mean for the dev/devops >> community so it deserves the great design, that we can help you create! >> >> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 7:30:41 PM UTC+2 Julius Volz wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 6:54 PM Tobias Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It'd be rad to see a complete site overhaul! The UI could definitely >>>> see a lot of improvements, so does our documentation structure actually. >>>> >>>> Though, I'm not so keen on adopting a JS site builder for Prometheus. >>>> Compilation speed has already been brought up, but the more important >>>> factor is that the prometheus is predominantly a Go project with Go >>>> experience being by far the highest. I have helped a friend with a larger >>>> JS project in the last months and the average number of JS dependencies and >>>> churn in the ecosystem make me very sceptical about us having the capacity >>>> to maintain it properly. In my humble opinion we'd fare better using Hugo >>>> as site generator. >>>> >>> >>> I'd offer some counter points: Working with Typescript and React / JSX / >>> TSX / CSS Modules (all of which you get with Gatsby) is sooo productive in >>> comparison to doing Go-based HTML templating. You get a thoroughly typed >>> representation of your site across code, styling, and content, with amazing >>> tooling right in your editor. Frederic seems to have recently discovered >>> this himself :) >>> https://twitter.com/fredbrancz/status/1314219293224169474 >>> >>> I'm not too worried about dependencies, as they might be many, but they >>> have never really gotten in my way, install really fast, and the big >>> ecosystem has packages to do pretty much anything you might want. >>> >>> >>>> Funny enough, just last night I started working on the long-standing >>>> request to automate the repository docs compilation, so that the site >>>> updates on new prometheus/alertmanager releases automatically. I have it >>>> almost ready - but oh boy is our navigation code a nightmare. I have the >>>> feeling the main issue for our compilation speed is the menu generation and >>>> quite a few nested loops which get executed every time. >>>> >>> >>> Great! >>> >>> The menu generation is exactly what Julien optimized through caching >>> last time: https://github.com/prometheus/docs/pull/1662 >>> >>> It did make the code more complicated than it already was, but the >>> speedup was big. Hopefully this will actually work better with Gatsby :) >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 6:26 PM Julius Volz <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 6:20 PM Julien Pivotto < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am 1000% for this, but it gatsby a replacement for nanoc? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes. 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