NO I'm actually on the fence on this, but my current position is closer to no change.
Reading thru https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-knodel-terminology-00.html and following the link to https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-bad-is-black-effect/ I can follow an argument like "black has a societal association with bad, and we should work towards fixing this". The bit I'm not convinced about is that scrubbing the word "black" everywhere moves us towards that goal, and I would even say that it does the opposite. In "blacklist" such an association is obvious, since that's a list of bad actors, and therefore that word is problematic because it reinforces the stereotype. In "blackbox" no such association is intended or exists, as it simply means "opaque" or "hidden". That said, I can concede that because of the connotation that "black" has for some people, they could interpret the term "blackbox" in the negative, communicating that a blackbox test is somehow inferior to the alternatives. If the goal is to fix _that_ perception, it should be stated clearly. On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 8:41 AM Julien Pivotto <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Prometheans, > > As per our governance, I'd like to cast a vote to rename the Blackbox > Exporter to Prober. > This vote is based on the following thread: > > https://groups.google.com/g/prometheus-developers/c/advMjgmJ1E4/m/A0abCsUrBgAJ > > Any Prometheus team member is eligible to vote, and votes for the > community are welcome too, but do not formally count in the result. > > Here is the content of the vote: > > > We want to rename Blackbox Exporter to Prober. > > I explicitly leave out the "how" out of this vote. If this vote passes, > a specific issue will be created in the blackbox exporter repository > explaining how I plan to work and communicate on this change. I will > make sure that enough time passes so that as many people as possible can > give their input on the "how". > > The vote is open until February 3rd. If the vote comes positive before > next week's dev summit, the "how" can also be discussed during the dev > summit, and I would use that discussion as input for the previously > mentioned github issue. > > -- > Julien Pivotto > @roidelapluie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Prometheus Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/20220120144119.GA522055%40hydrogen > . > -- Marcelo Magallón -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prometheus Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CABiJYgYMZZ9SqFs8m3ay9X86njyibgVuuJtRaPV62pwsMNENAQ%40mail.gmail.com.
