Ben, I agree with you on LIbreNMS being too slow and is too outdated. Do you have any recommendations other than that, or do you feel that all systems are too slow and is too outdated compared to Prometheus? In other words, who do you think are Prometheus's primary competitors?
On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 1:37 PM Ben Kochie <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't actually recommend LIbreNMS. It's too slow and is too outdated in > terms of monitoring capability to be worth implementing. Yes, it's easier > to setup for _just_ SNMP monitoring. But it fails at everything else. > Scalability, flexibility, performance, etc. > > Prometheus is a universal platform for monitoring everything from network > to server to application. Yes, it's more up-front work. But it's flexible > enough to provide monitoring for everything in your organization. > > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:27 PM Colton Conor <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Ben, >> >> Thanks for the information. I was really hoping you were going to say >> check out project x that has this all done for you :(. >> >> It sounds like today Promethus would just be too much work for our use >> case. With that being said, I see some NMS platforms like LibreNMS has a >> promethus exporter, which they claim is alpha at best. What are >> the thoughts about using something like this as a stepping stone to >> eventually getting to Promethus? >> >> Which monitoring platforms, other than LibreNMS, do you like or >> recommend? Do any of them have advanced functionality related to >> Promethus or time series databases? >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:43 PM Ben Kochie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, you'll have to create the customizations yourself. There's >>> currently no scanning/auto-configure for Prometheus SNMP users out there. >>> It's a missing market opportunity. >>> >>> I even suggested this to the LibreNMS people, as they have that part >>> down solid, but their metrics collection and backend is at least a decade >>> out of style (PHP polling + RRA). >>> >>> The up-side is that Prometheus is easily more scaleable than LibreNMS. >>> When I talked to them originally, I think we were still in the Prometheus >>> 1.x days and estimated we were doing 5x better back then. Now it's probably >>> 50x better. >>> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 11:10 PM Colton Conor <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am just wondering how hard to would be to replace something like >>>> LibreNMS or PRTG with Prometheus? With Libre, we just install, set the SNMP >>>> community sting, scan our network, and all devices get mapped, linked, and >>>> monitored. I imagine Prometheus would be much more involved? Sounds like we >>>> would have to edit .yml files for each device / vendor just to get the SNMP >>>> metrics into the database. Then, we must create custom Grafana dashboards >>>> for each device type right? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 1:25 PM Ben Kochie <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 90% of what you need from all the vendors is `if_mib`. The basic >>>>> network traffic stats. >>>>> >>>>> Once you have that, you can start to learn more about the >>>>> vendor-specific MIBs. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:40 PM Colton Conor <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What is the easiest was to use Prometheus with SNMP devices? We use >>>>>> over 20 different network vendors like Juniper, Cisco, Nokia, etc, and >>>>>> multiple models/devices under each brand. Each one of these has custom >>>>>> MIBs, and we are not SNMP experts. So we need a easy way to add multiple >>>>>> SNMP devices. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Prometheus Users" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/d40e0fa4-d44f-4bda-a753-5bea821b05f6%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/d40e0fa4-d44f-4bda-a753-5bea821b05f6%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Prometheus Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CAMDdSzPnyEZn2YtGtvkCcg6-mUdyiw%2Bi6gg%3DEAdMKev5SKxC8w%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CAMDdSzPnyEZn2YtGtvkCcg6-mUdyiw%2Bi6gg%3DEAdMKev5SKxC8w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prometheus Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-users/CAMDdSzPwX%2B%2BcBBdnEdzk9boS-knXRbZsT3k-kvNtvrxWwzZtQg%40mail.gmail.com.
