While that sounds like a good idea, it's going to produce less accurate
results for most use cases.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 3:15 PM Aliaksandr Valialkin <[email protected]>
wrote:

> There is an alternative solution - to use the increase() function from
> MetricsQL - it doesn't extrapolate results and it takes into account the
> previous value before the window in square brackets. So it returns exact
> expected values. See more details at
> https://victoriametrics.github.io/MetricsQL.html
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:49 PM [email protected] <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 20 November 2020 at 02:29:12 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> *Query*:
>>>  1. normal query: error_counter_something{job=“monitor”, device=“dev0”,
>>> serial=“xxxxxxxx”}
>>>  2. delta query: delta(error_counter_something{job=“monitor”,
>>> device=“dev0”, serial=“xxxxxxxx”}[$__interval] > 0)
>>>
>>> *Time Range*: 2020-11-19 16:16:00 ~ 2020-11-19 16:20:00 with 15sec
>>> interval
>>>
>>> *result*
>>>
>>> 16:16:15~30 raise 2 errors on device and move that error counter value
>>> from 7616 to 7618,
>>> but the delta query shows result of 3
>>>
>>> time                             ,            delta  ,
>>> normal
>>> 2020-11-19 16:16:00,                       ,                     7616
>>> 2020-11-19 16:16:15,                       ,                     7616
>>> 2020-11-19 16:16:30,                     3,                     7618
>>> 2020-11-19 16:16:45,                       ,                     7618
>>> 2020-11-19 16:17:00,                       ,                     7618
>>> (keep these value until end of query time range)
>>>
>>>
>> See
>> https://prometheus.io/docs/prometheus/latest/querying/functions/#delta
>> *"delta(v range-vector) calculates the difference between the first and
>> last value of each time series element in a range vector v, returning an
>> instant vector with the given deltas and equivalent labels. The delta is
>> extrapolated to cover the full time range as specified in the range vector
>> selector, so that it is possible to get a non-integer result even if the
>> sample values are all integers."*
>>
>> You haven't said what $__interval expands to in your query.  It must be
>> at least 30 seconds, because otherwise you wouldn't have two values in your
>> range vector.
>>
>> So let's see what happens with 30 seconds.  The window contains two
>> values:
>>
>> [...X........X...]
>>    7616    7618
>>     <--15s-->
>>
>> The difference between these is 2, and the time interval between them is
>> 15 seconds.  However this increase is then extrapolated to cover the whole
>> window period of 30 seconds, so the value returned by delta() would be 4.
>>
>> What about if $__interval was 45 seconds?  Then you'd have three values,
>> the difference between the first and last is 2, the time difference is 30
>> seconds extrapolated to 45 seconds, so the result would be 2 x (45/30) = 3.
>>
>> If you want the actual difference between the metric now and the metric
>> some time ago, you can do :
>>
>> something - something offset 15s
>>
>> However, both that expression and delta() will give you nonsense values
>> if a counter resets, because it will jump back down towards zero and give
>> you a large negative value.
>>
>> Better:
>>
>> (something - something offset 15s) >= 0
>>
>> but it won't handle counter resets as well as rate() or increase() can.
>>
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>
>
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>
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