Just now, I have search some other monitoring systems and find sysdig which 
have provided a cookbook which how to monitoring kubernetes.

https://sysdig.com/blog/alerting-kubernetes/ 

This is very enlightening to me.


Kind regards, 

Allenzh li
在2020年12月9日星期三 UTC+8 下午5:46:08<Allenzh li> 写道:

> I agree with you. 
>
>
> PromQL is a power query language and the web page can’t easily represent 
> the power.
>
>
> It is also a good idea to provide examples or cookbooks.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Allenzh li
>
>
> 在 2020年12月9日 16:50,Stuart Clark<[email protected]> 写道:
>
> On 09/12/2020 08:34, Allenzh li wrote:
> > The key problem is that ordinary users need to learn PromQL, even if 
> > grafana is provided, the cost of promql learning cannot be reduced.
> >
> > It is not easy for everyone to learn PromQL.
>
> If users need to create/update dashboards or alerts then yes they need 
> to understand PromQL. They also need to understand the metrics and their 
> meanings.
>
> I would say this is the case for any database type system, for example 
> needing to know SQL for MariaDB or KQL for Kibana & Elasticsearch.
>
> For both of those examples tools to allow very simple queries to be 
> constructed graphically do exist, but you very quickly outgrow them - 
> all these systems are only fully useful if you are able to use the power 
> of their different query languages.
>
> The sort of query which can be easily represented on a web page is so 
> basic that it generally isn't that useful, and trying to represent more 
> complex queries would quickly become more confusing than seeing the 
> underlying PromQL. For example how would you visually represent queries 
> which use sums of rates or join metrics together?
>
> I would suggest as far as query languages go, PromQL isn't that complex. 
> The basics should be relatively straightforward to learn, with more 
> complex ideas being things you can add over time to your understanding. 
> One thing that can be useful for less experienced users are example 
> queries or cookbooks - often you might find a set of alerts/queries for 
> dashboards have similarities.
>
>
>

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