On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 4:53 PM Greg Beyer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Evelyn, and thanks for the support.
>
> IMO a mailman mailing list is functionally the same as a google group --
> an unstructured list of threads.  A forum platform OTOH provides a
> framework of major topic areas (established by the admins) into which
> questions and answers are posted.  I'm not familiar with Discourse -- does
> it support topic areas?
>

Yes, Discourse is a web-based forum system, but it also supports email-list
like functionality.

I use Discourse for some other communities, and while I don't like some of
the way it works, it's pretty robust and functional. The big thing that
annoys me is the social gaming functions like award badges. IMO, there's no
need for this kind of thing in a technical discussion forum. The good news
is, the software has 1000 tuning knobs, and you can just turn it off.

>
> An the question of Google account requirement, I cannot figure out how to
> use this group *without* logging to Google.  I had to login to Google to
> post my initial question.  Now, I am able to reply to items in this thread,
> or I presume, start new threads by sending to "
> [email protected]"
> <https://beyerusa.net:2096/cpsess3120617939/3rdparty/roundcube/?_task=mail&_caps=pdf%3D1%2Cflash%3D0%2Ctiff%3D0%2Cwebp%3D1&_uid=3660&_mbox=INBOX.Sent&_framed=1&_action=preview#NOP>
> .  There is only one way to search through old conversation threads --
> login to Google. :-/
>
We mirror the prometheus-users group to an external email list archiving
service.

>
>
> BTW, I took a look at that stackexchange link on how to not use a Google
> account.(https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/15593) It seems to me that
> that link proves the point.  It is very difficult to not use a Google
> account to subscribe to a G-group.  I attempted the URL method, and even
> after clearing all cookies - no joy.  Google is very determined to track,
> trace, cross-reference users on any of its properties.
>
> I would prefer to use a different (work) email for interaction with this
> list.  I twice sent a message from that address to
> [email protected],
> <[email protected]> subject "subscribe". I got
> no welcome confirmation, and no bounce-back either, so that's been
> ineffective.  So, yeah, I'm feeling Google account coercion and Google
> lock-in.  Google is a space to free oneself from and avoid, not assimilate
> with the Borg :-)
>
Well, Prometheus was inspired by Borgmon, so there might be no escaping the
Borg (which inspired Kubernetes). ;-)

> Thanks, Prometheus.io, for giving this some attention.  A better platform
> for user collaboration is sorely needed.  At the same time, it will also
> benefit the product and your company.  Users asking and answering questions
> in a structured platform naturally builds a knowledge base where it is easy
> to find info applicable to a given issue.  That can ease adoption and
> increase your market share.
>
> cheers,
>
> Greg
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:22:03 PM UTC-4 Evelyn Pereira Souza wrote:
>
>> On 16.03.21 17:18, Greg Beyer wrote:
>> > Second, Google groups participation, requires a Google account and the
>> > privacy implications that entails.
>>
>> I fully agree on the privacy issues with Google and other Big Tech, but
>> there is no Google account required.
>>
>> See https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/15593
>>
>> kind regards
>> Evelyn
>>
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