Or slightly weirder:

absent(jenkins_up) and absent(absent(up{job="jenkins"}))

absent(absent(...)) being a way to get the RHS to have no labels, to match 
the LHS.

On Sunday, 3 October 2021 at 20:14:59 UTC+1 Brian Candler wrote:

> This might be an XY problem, because it is often better to have a defined 
> "up/down" metric (with value 1/0), which tells you whether something worked 
> or not, rather than alerting on presence or absence of a metric.
>
> However, to answer your question directly, I think you would need to 
> include some condition saying whether that metric *should* be there or not 
> - which is the presence of some other metric.  The "up" metric added by all 
> scrape jobs can be useful for this.  In this case, I expect 
> *up{job="jenkins"}* will exist, if and only if you have a 'jenkins' 
> scrape job in that region.  Therefore maybe something like this will do 
> what you want:
>
> absent(jenkins_up{job="jenkins"}) unless on (job) absent(up{job="jenkins"})
>
> which I think may simplify, if the 'jenkins_up' metric is only scraped by 
> the 'jenkins' job, to this (not sure):
>
> absent(jenkins_up) unless on () absent(up{job="jenkins"})
>
> On Sunday, 3 October 2021 at 19:40:23 UTC+1 Dan S wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Looking for some general advice about shared prom alert rules between 
>> regions.  We currently push the same alert rules to all regions, and 
>> sometimes we run into situations where we have a specific job in region X 
>> but not Y.
>>
>> This is fine for basic cases, such as *up{job="jenkins"} == 0* which 
>> will be ignored in regions where there's no jenkins job present (or could 
>> easily specify region="X").
>>
>> But in some situations I'd like to use absent on a metric that often has 
>> gaps for example
>> *absent(jenkins_up{job="jenkins"})*
>> This would trigger in all regions, whether or not there's a job "jenkins" 
>> (obviously because it's triggering on the missing metrics) even if I try to 
>> be more specific: *absent(jenkins_up{job="jenkins", region="US"}).*
>>
>> Any suggestions how I can craft an alert query using absent() in on 
>> metrics that don't appear in all regions?  So that if region="US" has 
>> job="jenkins" and I watch to catch gaps here, it won't also fire in 
>> region="EU" which never has job="jenkins".... ?
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>

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