Hi Bruno,

Could you outline how returning 0 (instead of 1) for counters for their
first scrape helps with the existence issues of a time series? The sample
value of a series should have no effect on the series' existence.

And as
https://github.com/goto-opensource/smart-prometheus-client#counters-warm-up
notes, it's important to point out here again that this is not really
compatible with Prometheus' collection model where producers of metrics
should not need to know how many Prometheus servers are scraping them, and
GET requests to /metrics should be idempotent for that reason.

Regards,
Julius

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 5:12 PM Bruno Martinez <bmc.marti...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Prometheus Community!
>
> There have been many discussions and issues related to the problem of new
> timeseries and the increase() (example: here
> <https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/issues/1673>, or here
> <https://github.com/prometheus/client_ruby/issues/141>) and even the
> official documentation of Prometheus mentions to "avoid missing metrics
> <https://prometheus.io/docs/practices/instrumentation/#avoid-missing-metrics>".
>
>
> The workaround consist in manually initializing our metrics to 0. This can
> become complex with vectors when we don't know in advance the combination
> of label values, moreover we need to be sure the first scrape from
> Prometheus include this 0 value.
>
> At Goto.com we implemented a solution
> <https://github.com/goto-opensource/smart-prometheus-client> to this
> problem that has been running in production for more than 1 year and we
> decided to open it to the community.
>
> It's golang library extending the official client that ensure the first
> collection(s) of counters always return 0 instead of their actual value.
> This works for counters/histogram/summaries and the corresponding vectors.
>
> This is done in the background without anything to add in your application
> code.
>
>
> We hope this will help the community, try it!
>
> feedback are welcome.
>
>
> https://github.com/goto-opensource/smart-prometheus-client
>
> Have a nice day!
> Bruno
>
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