To solve this missing "graphics" problem I used the ploygon drawing tools to
draw our company logo on the template sheets. This works every time.

I also tried creating our company logo as a schematic component (so that it
may be easily used elsewhere on schematics as needed) but that also fails in
a similar way to the graphics on the template sheets.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Coleman, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 05 April 2001 10:58
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] template graphics
> Dear Abdl,
> Like you I recongnise the need to chose the right tools. However MOST
> engineers don't have a choice in the EDA tools the use, having
> been selected
> by someone else and a company with lots of investment in a certain tool is
> not always keen to simly dump a tool for a better one.
> However, in my case and for the firt time ever, I was responsible for
> finding a new EDA tool for the company, to replace an existing
> older system.
> I spent some time trying various different tools, looking at cost and
> performance. Protel came out tops, it did all that ORCAD, it's nearest
> rival, did and was cheeper! I was reallly pleased to find such a good EDA
> tool at a good price. However it is not easy to find all the bugs (sorry
> un-documented or un-implented features) in a 30 day period when you have a
> bunch of other EDAs to review aswell. I am not so nieve to think
> that there
> is an EDA tool out there without some 'bugs' and I realise that test and
> de-bugging cost time and money. I am just a little frustrated at
> the number
> of bugs that are being found by myself and my co-workers who use this tool
> since we really started to use it. On balance I still stand by my choice.
> Yesterday I had just too much crap coming my way because of Protel.
> In regard to my problem, I have copied all our engineers with a copy of
> Company templates database and the requisit company logo graphic and told
> them to place it in the system directory in its own template
> directory. This
> means that whenever and wherever a database is opened it looks for the
> template and graphic and finds them where it expects to since all the
> machines have the same set-up.
> Problem solved.
> TC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:35 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] template graphics
> At 01:36 PM 4/4/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >Why is it that when I create a template with a company logo
> graphic and use
> >it for a schematic and then, when I send the databas to another
> person, the
> >graphic image is no longer on the schematic? I have loaded a copy of the
> >graphic image into the DB but I can't make the browser point at stuff
> inside
> >the DB, only outside it.
> >
> >Anyone know what the problem is? anyone know what can be done to
> solve it?
> >
> >The more I use this product the less satisfied I am with it. It's a bit
> half
> >baked.
> Perhaps, but more often it is we who are half-baked.
> In this case Protel does not embed the graphics into the file,
> and it does
> not look for a file in the database when placing the graphic. I'd agree
> that it should do the second of these, but this is a missing
> feature, not a
> bug, per se. Send the logo graphic separately.
> The database format is new and it looks like the routines to look
> inside a
> database for a graphics file are simply not there. Since this has been
> brought up before, perhaps we will see this in an upcoming service pack.
> (If it hasn't already been fixed, I did not check, and the writer did not
> say what SP level he has installed.)
> Protel has a choice of one of two things: it can spend the time and money
> to make sure that everything is perfect before releasing the
> product, or it
> can release it with something short of perfection (i.e., with
> undiscovered
> problems that are not found in beta-test or that would take too long to
> fix). I'm glad that they chose the second option, because if they had
> chosen the first, the product would either have an astronomical
> price, or,
> more likely, it simply would not exist since the company would have gone
> bankrupt long ago.
> I'm a craftsman; when something goes wrong, I don't blame my
> tools. It's my
> responsibility to choose tools adequate for the job, and to learn how to
> use them, including all their quirks and foibles. And every tool
> has these.
> If Protel were not readily and easily usable for accomplishing
> its purpose,
> that would be a different matter; but, then again, none of us would be
> keeping the software beyond the 90-day free return period. What I see is
> that it is very difficult to find copies of Protel products for resale:
> people hold on to them tightly. The other major CAD companies do
> not allow
> resale. What does that tell you?
> Abdulrahman Lomax
> P.O. Box 690
> El Verano, CA 95433

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