Thanks to all.  Selecting all and moving did the trick.  You would think
that the software would know when a primitive moves outside the workspace
and not let you do it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:39 PM
> To:   Protel EDA Forum
> Subject:      Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
> 
> At 09:49 AM 3/23/01 -0500, Jackson, Ken wrote:
> >Is there anyway to display the workspace below the absolute origin.  I
> can't
> >get the display to scroll below this origin yet when I produce the gerber
> >files and load them into CAMtastic, there is some text and copper that
> shows
> >up 3 inches from the bottom of the board.  I can remove this in CAMtastic
> >but I would prefer to have a clean database.
> 
> (1) No, there is no direct way to display primitives outside the
> workspace.
> 
> (2) To work with such primitives, move them into the workspace. The basic 
> idea is to select them together with something you can pick up inside the 
> workspace, and then move the selection. When you are moving a selection, a
> 
> bounding box may appear that shows you the extent of the selection. That's
> 
> a clue as to where the offending primitives are located. You also know 
> where they are located from the gerbers....
> 
> (3) Select them by EDA (Edit/Select/All) and then use EEI 
> (Edit/Deselect/Inside) to unselect everything inside the workspace. Place
> a 
> pad and select it. You can then move all the selections by picking up that
> pad.
> 
> (4) And this is a clue to how the primitives got there in the first place.
> 
> You had something selected and then you moved somewhere else in your
> design 
> and selected it and moved it. Protel picks up *all* your selections, not 
> just selections on screen! Get in the habit of deselecting everything (EEA
> 
> or XA) before working with selection, so that you start clean. You might 
> also notice that the bounding box is going off screen, but it is easy to 
> overlook that (and when the number of objects selected is small and the 
> selection is moved slowly, the bounding box may not appear).
> 
> Protel should warn that primitives are being moved out of the workspace 
> whenever a block move results in such creatures, and there should be three
> 
> optional answers:
> 
> [ACCEPT, I know what I am doing even though everyone else cannot fathom
> why 
> I might want to put primitives outside the workspace]
> 
> [NO, don't move any objects outside the workspace; instead deselect any 
> objects which would be wholly or partially moved into limbo and leave them
> 
> where they were, while allowing the rest of the move]
> 
> [CANCEL and return me to selection floating on cursor].
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Abdulrahman Lomax
> P.O. Box 690
> El Verano, CA 95433

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