What's your virtual memory size. (page file...)
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Brian Guralnick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Velander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay tun ed.


| For the sake of possibly supplying some better understanding, here you go
| AJ.
| 
| The issues which I saw this morning were within a single session, i.e.
| everything was working fine and normal and then it wasn't. So it would not
| seem to be some leftover from a previous session or the last day.
| With the font issue, I was editing a bunch of component fields on
| several parts. Most went just fine and then I opened one and the window was
| a different size and shape (30% bigger & tabs split to two rows). The next
| thing I noticed was that the font in the window was bold and not the normal
| system font.
| With the ignorant command strings, I had also been working along for
| a reasonable time using all the regular shortcut keys that I normally use,
| select inside, move selection, deselect all, etc., etc.. Everything was
| fine. I selected a small group of symbols, it highlighted fine, pressed "M",
| "S", nothing happened. Tried several key stroke shortcuts, nothing happened.
| A few of the menu commands worked and I saved my work, closed the DDB and
| closed Protel. Restarted Protel and the problem was gone and I haven't run
| into either again today.
| 
| I normally leave my system (NT4) turned on but logout regularly
| every evening. So no cold boot. No warm boot. Just login each morning.
| Yes I have seen the infamous Protel not shutting down a few times
| that I have caught it, usually when logging out at night and then the logout
| tells me that Protel is still running. When this occurs I then usually
| double check through Task Manager to make sure Protel is now completely
| shut-down before I retry to logout.
| 
| Brad Velander,
| Lead PCB Designer,
| Norsat International Inc.,
| #300 - 4401 Still Creek Dr.,
| Burnaby, B.C., V5C 6G9.
| Tel. (604) 292-9089 direct
| Fax (604) 292-9010
| website www.norsat.com
| 
| 
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Andrew J Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:17 PM
| > To: Protel EDA Forum
| > Subject: Re: [PEDA] The Mysteries of Altium, Jeraldo investigates stay
| > tuned.
| > 
| > 
| > 
| > Seen it. sporadic, so again attributed to the program's 
| > idiosyncrasies, perhaps some more of that boasting about "10 
| > minutes for a day's work" thingy I just read about in another post<g>
| > 
| > >Several other commands are also not functioning. Shut down
| > >Protel, restarted, system came back up with everything 
| > working normal. A day
| > >and a half later I have not seen the same problem again (in 
| > the past I have
| > >seen this several times and just want to avoid the slow 
| > shutdown, restart
| > >routine).
| > 
| > Try closing your work, and then kill the app (from NT's task 
| > manager) and restart. Perhaps something's being left behind 
| > during shutdown. Protel doesn't always letcha know when 
| > things don't shutdown properly.
| > 
| > Q: do you leave your system up all the time, or does it get 
| > turned off at the end of the day?
| > 
| > Neither NT or 2k are absolutely immune to leftovers and 
| > dangling crud, just significantly more bullet-proof than 
| > their predecessors. I like to shutdown and restart (from the 
| > OFF position) at least every other day.
| > 
| > r,
| > 
| > aj
| 
| 

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