I tried the checkbox "permanent". Nothing happened. The only thing witch is
permanent is the hook in the checkbox.

The problem you described with the text somewhere else than the component
can be avoided by setting the DEFAULT Values of  COMPONENT (PROPERTIES,
DESIGNATOR, COMMENT) all to ZERO when designing a component in the LIB and
when placing it.
Not that you can choose where to place the text, but at least it is next to
the component.

After setting the default values it is possible to save them in a file. But
after restarting PROTEL you have to load the file again.




----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] DEFAULTS in PCB Lib


> Ralf -  have you tried ticking the "permanent" check box in the lib editor
> PREFERENCES/DEFAULTS/COMPONENTS window. Not sure if this will work but its
> worth a try.
>
> I'm glad Protel ignores the value for the designator and comment text
> position.
> Having never looked at this before, I took a peek this morning to find
that
> all my component text positions are defined in the libraries as over a
meter
> diagonally below the workspace (x location -1185.9 mm, y location -1172.05
> mm). Since I place all my footprints on the origin (0,0) this could have
> been quite messy.
>
> Looking at the components default co-ordinate setting in the library gives
> the same sort of values (negative ~1000mm) even though it's placed on the
> origin. What's going on here?
>
> Tom.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ralf Peter Meier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 10:56 PM
> > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > Subject: [PEDA] DEFAULTS in PCB Lib
> >
> >
> > Hello (all),
> >
> > first: Protel 99SE Bug fix 6
> >
> >
> >
> > I try to build a new Library. Therefore I try to define
> > Default Values for
> > Text Size and Position in the PCB Library. So each Component
> > should have
> > it's own Text size and Position. I defined under : TOOLS /
> > PREFERENCES /
> > DEFAULTS / COMPONENTS
> > the size and position I like to have.
> > As Michael Johnen before mentioned, it is not possible to save these
> > defaults permanent. But it is possible to save these settings.
> > But if you set them , go to PCB and change the PREFERENCES
> > over there, come
> > back and the PREFERENCES in the LIB are changed again. AND
> > not the same way
> > as in the PCB.
> >
> > Also, if you change the PREFERENCES in PCB (text size and
> > position) Protel
> > doesn't use them. In my Protel, default text size when
> > placing a component
> > is always 60mil/10mil. I can change it, but I want it to be
> > on a default
> > value when placing (by importing netlist) it.
> > The only thing works by default is the checkbox in COMMENT
> > and DESIGNATOR
> > for HIDE.
> > I think the other "adjustments" are only for optical reasons.
> > It looks good
> > to have them.
> >
> > Am I to stupid? (it's not necessary to answer this question)
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > ralf
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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