[OT link re: phoenix] http://www.stiltman.com/phoenix.htm
> -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 06:13 > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Weird behaviour & Free speech & shrink wrap > > > Ahhh yes, Phoenix... > > Does this mean it will never completely die, & that > Phoenix will always stay in > the "Processes", after quitting, & by some miracle, 1 day, it > will come back to full > life after trying to shutdown the PC? > > ____________ > Brian Guralnick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:42 PM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Weird behaviour & Free speech & shrink wrap > > > | maybe there is a distinction between first closing all the open > | documents and then closing the ddb as opposed to just > closing the ddb > | with the documents open > | > | i swear that since following the above procedure i have not seen the > | problem of protel still running when it is in fact not > still running in > | W2K > | (whereas i had seen it regularly before following this procedure) > | > | by saying this i do not mean to defend this aberrant behavior > | of course at this point there will be no more SP's or fixes, we have > | only Phoenix to hope and wait for (the very name is > chilling in what it > | portends) > | > | today while buying another protel license i was told that > Phoenix would > | be shipping in Q1 > | i pointed out that Q1 was almost over and that i had heard > no noises re > | beta testing > | .. > | > | in infoworld there was an article about certain shrink wrap licenses > | (major database stuff) curtailing the discussion of performance or > | benchmarking results > | > | apparently this is being taken to court as an abridgment of > free speech > | > | if in fact phoenix is in beta and those testers have been > enjoined from > | at least saying that they were beta testers then perhaps there is a > | potential problem there > | > | if it is not in beta and they are still talking Q1 release > then i fear > | we are headed for trouble and may be enlisted as their > paying beta crew > | > | i, for one, would be more happy with substantive > incremental upgrades > | than these grandiose promises of all new software which > will be hard to > | keep > | > | Dennis Saputelli > | > | Brad Velander wrote: > | > > | > Dennis, > | > just to add to the knowledge, I 'almost' always > close the ddbs > | > before shutting down Protel and quite often I still > experience the Client99 > | > process running at shut down. > | > > | > Sincerely, > | > Brad Velander. > | > > | > Lead PCB Designer > | > Norsat International Inc. > | > Microwave Products > | > Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) > | > Fax (604) 292-9010 > | > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > http://www.norsat.com > | > > | > | -- > | > ______________________________________________________________ > _____________ > | www.integratedcontrolsinc.com Integrated Controls, Inc. > | tel: 415-647-0480 2851 21st Street > | fax: 415-647-3003 San > Francisco, CA 94110 > | > | > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
