i too have had two fujitsu drives fail recently and now avoid them like the
plague, i have only ever had on seagate drive fail (in many years) though,
and they replaced that free of charge even though it was over two and a half
years old!! fujitsu wouldn't even talk to me about a 13 month old one.
seagate are stunning for service. my opion only of course, your mileage my
vary ;-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 April 2002 06:13
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] recovering data

At 08:55 PM 29/04/02 -0700, you wrote:
>I triple backup because my livelyhood depends on it! I have two drives in
>machine that get mirrored. This covers me from a drive crash or even an
>accidental file overwrite. On a weekly basis, I copy my data to another
>machine, so if my drive controller on this machine screws up and trashes
>both drives, I've only lost a week max. I don't screw around with tape
>anymore because it's slow and I didn't do it often enough.

Tony - I am with you the need for backups but I would have been softer on
the personal stuff.  I recently had a disk crash that exposed a fault in my
rigorous (I thought backup system) - I know how easy it is to think
everything is backed up OK but then find that this is not the case - after
the fact.  I modified my system as below:

1) Each night all the machines on my network automagically runs a batch
file that zips up anything that has changed in the last two days into a
suitably named zip file (file name has date in it).  (Basically incremental
backup with overlap.)
2) This file is copied to both hard disks of that machine (every machine
has two hard disks) and also across the network onto one hard disk of
another machine.
3) Each week the same batch file is run but zipping anything that has
changed in the last 999 days. (Basically a complete backup.)

So each backup file is mirrored in three locations with one location on
another machine and every one of them on a separate hard disk.

The batch file is set to walk the directories that I want backed up.  This
is a bit of a fiddle (making sure all data directories are in the backup
list). But each machine has a User Data folder below which all data to be
backed up should be stored if possible - some programs do not make it easy
to change the location of data files but these get added to the batch file

The zip process includes an exclude file to remove *.bak etc files from the

I then burn a CD-ROM every so often, and delete the older backups to stop
the hard disks filling too quickly.

I found that the Scheduled Task service under Win2k stops working (due to
password failure when it tries to run a task as an Admin) after daylight
saving - so my backup was not running for a couple of days until I noticed
and found mention of the issue on the www.

One office where I do a lot of work has recently had 5 out of 5 Fujitsu 20
GB hard disks fail all within a few months of each other, the most any of
them lasted was about a 12 months.  Operating systems were 2xWin98,
2xWinNT, and 1xWin2k. Air conditioned office.  Some machines were being
turned off each night and some were on always.  All hard disks bought at
the same time.  I have also recently had a 20 GB hard disk fail (not

I spoke to a data recovery expert and he was saying that it is his strong
impression that the failure rate of new hard disks is rising due mainly to
the very short time-to-market constraints on the HD developers.

***It will happen to you.***


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