> -----Original Message-----
> From: Protel Hell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Synchroniser won't recognise components
> are the rules for email different outside the U'S.?

You mean like this? :-)

I did not think the US had made a standard for email reply, yet.

But IMHO point by point replies are the most efficient way of
responding. What use is having an answer before a question.

> it has been the custom in a thread to add your comments to 
> the top of the email, that way people know what you are 
> adding to the thread, they also have a history of what has 
> been said because each person adds to the original conversation,

Only for those people already following or familiar with the thread. Or
for people using a threaded view of the topic.

For anyone else it is hard to read when the answer appears before the
> I notice many of you go through the email reformatting what 
> has previously been said and intermixing your replies

Most efficient way to format responses to individual answers.
> the goal of communication is shared meaning, why is it 
> everyone always tries to change the way we communicate? is 
> the standard way really that bad?

I have always answered this way.
> if you respond, there is no need to write a novel, KISS

Others can write the novel, I have just responded with my $0.02 worth
> BTW, I did not edit anything, just hit the reply button, look 
> what has happened to the thread

Nope, but if I had grouped all my responses in one lump of text at the
top, anyone else other than you, reading this thread, would have to
first scroll down to read the question and then back to the top to read
the response and so on.

Might just be  me, but I prefer it like this, as my eyes are getting too
old to play 'ping pong' with messages that I have to page up/page down
the screen to scroll around to read.

I like to have it all in front of me or in a logical order, Q/A

In any event, should I be in need of help, I will always be extremely
grateful for any response I receive, regardless of how it is formatted
as the content is more important than its aesthetic appearance or any
single users perception of proper etiquette.

All Best


> >From: Ian Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [PEDA] Synchroniser won't recognise components
> >Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:23:56 +1100
> >
> >On 07:36 AM 4/02/2004, Jon Elson said:
> >
> >
> >>Leo Potjewijd wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello.
> >>>I am trying to update an existing PCB (19"6U passive 
> backplane): it needs 
> >>>to be shorter, lose some connectors and gain two connectors of a 
> >>>different type.
> >>>
> >>>I changed the schematic (just a single sheet) to include 
> all connectors 
> >>>and their interconnections (almost all of them got a new 
> refdes); then I 
> >>>changed the PCB manually to add the new ones, delete the 
> unwanted ones 
> >>>and renumbered them all according to the new schematic.
> >>>
> >>>When I run 'update PCB' the synchroniser does not recognise two 
> >>>(different) connectors: it claims that J7 is not on the 
> PCB (which it is) 
> >>>and that J13 is not on the schematic (which it is).
> >>>I checked all fields, names etc of the components in 
> question but cannot 
> >>>find anything wrong.
> >>Ugh, you've de-synchronized the synchronizer.
> >>
> >>This occasionally happens when you manually change parts on 
> the PCB and 
> >>then
> >>try to synchronize.  Once it happens, the synchronizer is 
> very difficult 
> >>to get working
> >>right again, although it sometimes clears itself.
> >
> >I think the easiest way to clear the hidden synch "handles" 
> is to save the 
> >PCB file as an ASCII file and the close and re-open.  When 
> you try to 
> >re-synch the Match by Designator dialog will pop up to help 
> you make the 
> >initial match.
> >
> >Leo - you would probably have been better off only making the manual 
> >changes in Sch and then done an update.  this should have 
> created macros to 
> >delete and change components as required and then you could 
> have finished 
> >off the PCB.  This is what I do - almost all changes are 
> driven from the 
> >Sch via the Update PCB (synchroniser).  Rarely would I muck 
> about on both 
> >the Sch and the PCB at the same time unless I am really careful.  
> >Occasionally I will change the footprint of a component on 
> the PCB and then 
> >use the Update Sch to push that change back to the Sch.
> >
> >Ian Wilson
> >
> >
> >
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