"The psf-board-public mailing list, which is used for board discussions
which are not legally or otherwise sensitive, allowing them to be shared
with the wider PSF membership."
- https://wiki.python.org/psf/Info%20for%20new%20PSF%20members

That does not seem accurate, and I consider it a problem.

The only traffic this list gets is Diana's post of the meeting minutes
(Thank you Diana) with these exceptions I found:

1 post form a board member, no reply.  Not sure that qualifies as a

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:22 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> IMO, Van's version is ... (follow the link if you want to know the rest)

This shows me that MAL is taking an active role in shaping the results.   I
may not really agree with his position, but I know what it is, and if I
strongly disagreed I would like to think someone would want to hear about
it.  And or if I disagree with enough of his ideas, maybe I won't vote for

May June and July have a little activity too:

It looks like most of the traffic is from non board members.

Is this why the board stopped using it for board discussions?

Why are non board members allowed to post to the board list?


I am trying to elect board members and want to know how they feel about
something I care about.  If you want to have a discussion, start a new

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Steve Holden <st...@holdenweb.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Carl Karsten <c...@personnelware.com>
>> > I also used to wonder what was being discussed behind closed doors.
>> We shouldn't have to wonder. If it really is that boring, fine, but it
should be up to me to decide how I spend my time.
>> The posted minutes are just a summary and results of the discussions and
votes.  They don't tell me what was seen as pros and cons and how they were
> For Heaven's sake. We elect a board to look after these issues. You can't
expect to second-guess every deliberation. If you want to do that, stand
for the board.
>> I have no idea what the individual board members think. Even when there
is a unanimous vote, I still don't know why they voted that way.
> Because that's what they thought would be in the Foundation's best
> [...]
> Steve Holden

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