Pspp has the ability to import ods data files using suntax .

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> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 10:02:32 +0200
> From: Elias Tsolis <estatistic...@gmail.com>
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> I can translate it in greek if you want.
> Aldo i purpose to adf some examples for syntax.
> Pkease tell me what to do.
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> >    1. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff)
> >    2. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (John Darrington)
> >    3. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff)
> >    4. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Alan Mead)
> >    5. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff)
> >    6. Re: Your automagic screenshots!  (Friedrich Beckmann)
> >    7. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (John Darrington)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:20:50 -0700
> > From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>
> > To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de>
> > Cc: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>,  PSPP Development
> >         Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org>
> > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots!
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> > We've had documentation in French and Polish contributed by users
> > before. We linked to it from the FAQ. It seems that those links are
> > dead now, though.
> >
> > It would be great to get documentation contributions that we can
> > include in the PSPP manual.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:46 AM Friedrich Beckmann
> > <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for the
> > documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list
> > >
> > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html
> > >
> > > how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a
> > description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she
> could
> > > make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi code
> > which would require to have a build system running to see the rendered
> > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced.
> > >
> > > Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted
> > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we
> > would publish it on the gnu website?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Fritz
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 19:23:57 +0100
> > From: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>
> > To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de>
> > Cc: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>, PSPP Development
> >         Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org>
> > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots!
> > Message-ID: <YjoUPU8v7I56GDJ0@jocasta.intra>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel.
> You
> > would
> > first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or
> > opendocument
> > format.
> >
> > J'
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote:
> >      Hi John,
> >
> >      i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for
> the
> > documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list
> >
> >      https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html
> <
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html>
> >
> >      how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a
> > description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she
> could
> >      make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi code
> > which would require to have a build system running to see the rendered
> > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced.
> >
> >      Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted
> > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we
> > would publish it on the gnu website?
> >
> >      Cheers
> >
> >      Fritz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:29:29 -0700
> > From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>
> > To: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>
> > Cc: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de>,  PSPP Development
> >         Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org>
> > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots!
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a
> > practical way to support direct import then we should consider it.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington
> > <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel.
> > You would
> > > first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or
> > opendocument
> > > format.
> > >
> > > J'
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote:
> > >      Hi John,
> > >
> > >      i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for
> > the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list
> > >
> > >      https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/
> msg00031.html
> > <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html>
> > >
> > >      how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a
> > description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she
> could
> > >      make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi
> > code which would require to have a build system running to see the
> rendered
> > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced.
> > >
> > >      Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted
> > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we
> > would publish it on the gnu website?
> > >
> > >      Cheers
> > >
> > >      Fritz
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:40:57 -0500
> > From: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org>
> > To: pspp-dev@gnu.org
> > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots!
> > Message-ID: <e3ca7111-8079-36b1-66b2-462308d5b...@alanmead.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > You are probably aware, but the XLSX format used in recent versions of
> > Excel is significantly more accessible (it's a ZIP file containing XML
> > and similar data) than the older XLS format.
> >
> > Also, it's fairly easy to open an XLS/XLSX file in LibreOffice and save
> > it as CSV, but you can also use LO in a batch mode (Windows/DOS example):
> >
> > "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\scalc.exe" --convert-to csv
> > "excel_file.xls"
> >
> > produces "excel_file.csv" in CSV format.
> >
> > -Alan
> >
> > On 3/22/2022 1:29 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > > It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a
> > > practical way to support direct import then we should consider it.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington
> > > <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote:
> > >> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel.
> > You would
> > >> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric
> or
> > opendocument
> > >> format.
> > >>
> > >> J'
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote:
> > >>       Hi John,
> > >>
> > >>       i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take
> for
> > the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list
> > >>
> > >>       https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/
> > msg00031.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-
> > 03/msg00031.html>
> > >>
> > >>       how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have
> > a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she
> could
> > >>       make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi
> > code which would require to have a build system running to see the
> rendered
> > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced.
> > >>
> > >>       Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted
> > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we
> > would publish it on the gnu website?
> > >>
> > >>       Cheers
> > >>
> > >>       Fritz
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:47:15 -0700
> > From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>
> > To: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org>
> > Cc: PSPP Development Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org>
> > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots!
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAA_G9+hvyXcOAazgY6qr7RV+-Zv01bfwW9qJP=jO2vRyEAEK2g@
> > mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I followed the saga of standardizing the XLSX format in some detail
> > when it was going on 10 or so years ago. At least at the time, it was
> > said that it would take a lot of work for a program to read it,
> > because (for example) a program that read it would need to be able to
> > implement recalculation, including all the formulas and functions,
> > since the files didn't necessarily include the pre calculated values.
> > This suggests to me that, if PSPP were to be able to read these files
> > directly, then we would need to use a third-party library or program
> > to do it with a reasonable amount of code.
> >
> > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the
> > manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:41 AM Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > You are probably aware, but the XLSX format used in recent versions of
> > > Excel is significantly more accessible (it's a ZIP file containing XML
> > > and similar data) than the older XLS format.
> > >
> > > Also, it's fairly easy to open an XLS/XLSX file in LibreOffice and save
> > > it as CSV, but you can also use LO in a batch mode (Windows/DOS
> example):
> > >
> > > "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\scalc.exe" --convert-to csv
> > > "excel_file.xls"
> > >
> > > produces "excel_file.csv" in CSV format.
> > >
> > > -Alan
> > >
> > > On 3/22/2022 1:29 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > > > It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a
> > > > practical way to support direct import then we should consider it.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington
> > > > <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote:
> > > >> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from
> > excel.  You would
> > > >> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric
> > or opendocument
> > > >> format.
> > > >>
> > > >> J'
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote:
> > > >>       Hi John,
> > > >>
> > > >>       i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take
> > for the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list
> > > >>
> > > >>       https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/
> > msg00031.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-
> > 03/msg00031.html>
> > > >>
> > > >>       how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to
> > have a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that
> she
> > could
> > > >>       make such a manual which would currently mean to write the
> texi
> > code which would require to have a build system running to see the
> rendered
> > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced.
> > > >>
> > > >>       Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of
> > handcrafted tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC
> > license and we would publish it on the gnu website?
> > > >>
> > > >>       Cheers
> > > >>
> > > >>       Fritz
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 06:25:52 +0100
> > From: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de>
> > To: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>
> > Cc: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org>, PSPP Development Mailing List
> >         <pspp-dev@gnu.org>
> > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots!
> > Message-ID: <bc4fa759-8bcb-4ee2-b825-c5f4ba595...@gmx.de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> > I answered her in the mailing list to export from excel to csv and to
> > import from csv to pspp. That seemed to be sufficient. I was more
> wondering
> > how to engage people who probably are not in the position to install the
> > build environment to render the documentation.
> >
> > Friedrich
> >
> > > Am 23.03.2022 um 04:59 schrieb Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>:
> > >
> > > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the
> > > manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 10:29:39 +0100
> > From: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>
> > To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de>
> > Cc: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>, PSPP Development Mailing List
> >         <pspp-dev@gnu.org>
> > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots!
> > Message-ID: <YjrogwohhDQ3vxla@jocasta.intra>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > The documentation including screenshots are included in the manual.
> > If I recall correctly this includes the Windoze builds last time I
> > checked.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 06:25:52AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote:
> >
> >      I answered her in the mailing list to export from excel to csv and
> to
> > import from csv to pspp. That seemed to be sufficient. I was more
> wondering
> > how to engage people who probably are not in the position to install the
> > build environment to render the documentation.
> >
> >      Friedrich
> >
> >      > Am 23.03.2022 um 04:59 schrieb Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>:
> >      >
> >      > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the
> >      > manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me.
> >      >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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