Pspp has the ability to import ods data files using suntax . On Thursday, March 24, 2022, <pspp-dev-requ...@gnu.org> wrote:
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Re: pspp-dev Digest, Vol 209, Issue 4 (Elias Tsolis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 10:02:32 +0200 > From: Elias Tsolis <estatistic...@gmail.com> > To: "pspp-dev@gnu.org" <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > Subject: Re: pspp-dev Digest, Vol 209, Issue 4 > Message-ID: > <CAN7+exzkQTe2Yp+wK4Tdovu3CSDJhwNraHuVcTxyYyWLV > nz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I can translate it in greek if you want. > Aldo i purpose to adf some examples for syntax. > Pkease tell me what to do. > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2022, <pspp-dev-requ...@gnu.org> wrote: > > > Send pspp-dev mailing list submissions to > > pspp-dev@gnu.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pspp-dev > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > pspp-dev-requ...@gnu.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > pspp-dev-ow...@gnu.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of pspp-dev digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) > > 2. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (John Darrington) > > 3. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) > > 4. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Alan Mead) > > 5. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Ben Pfaff) > > 6. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (Friedrich Beckmann) > > 7. Re: Your automagic screenshots! (John Darrington) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 09:20:50 -0700 > > From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> > > To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> > > Cc: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>, PSPP Development > > Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > > Message-ID: > > <CAA_G9+h5bPG70rk_5CT9vmLeJtrJdcrJQs13Fws0fSSu- > > 9g...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > We've had documentation in French and Polish contributed by users > > before. We linked to it from the FAQ. It seems that those links are > > dead now, though. > > > > It would be great to get documentation contributions that we can > > include in the PSPP manual. > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:46 AM Friedrich Beckmann > > <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for the > > documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list > > > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html > > > > > > how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a > > description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she > could > > > make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi code > > which would require to have a build system running to see the rendered > > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > > > > > > Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted > > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we > > would publish it on the gnu website? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Fritz > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 19:23:57 +0100 > > From: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> > > To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> > > Cc: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>, PSPP Development > > Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > > Message-ID: <YjoUPU8v7I56GDJ0@jocasta.intra> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. > You > > would > > first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or > > opendocument > > format. > > > > J' > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for > the > > documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html > < > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> > > > > how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a > > description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she > could > > make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi code > > which would require to have a build system running to see the rendered > > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > > > > Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted > > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we > > would publish it on the gnu website? > > > > Cheers > > > > Fritz > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:29:29 -0700 > > From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> > > To: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> > > Cc: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de>, PSPP Development > > Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > > Message-ID: > > <CAA_G9+hL=QTvRCqe=WnGx5oSuo9+fXGDhwmszS0Y1aP2TLS8cQ@mail. > > gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a > > practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington > > <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: > > > > > > So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. > > You would > > > first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric or > > opendocument > > > format. > > > > > > J' > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > > > i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take for > > the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list > > > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/ > msg00031.html > > <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/msg00031.html> > > > > > > how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have a > > description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she > could > > > make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi > > code which would require to have a build system running to see the > rendered > > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > > > > > > Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted > > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we > > would publish it on the gnu website? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Fritz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:40:57 -0500 > > From: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> > > To: pspp-dev@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > > Message-ID: <e3ca7111-8079-36b1-66b2-462308d5b...@alanmead.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > You are probably aware, but the XLSX format used in recent versions of > > Excel is significantly more accessible (it's a ZIP file containing XML > > and similar data) than the older XLS format. > > > > Also, it's fairly easy to open an XLS/XLSX file in LibreOffice and save > > it as CSV, but you can also use LO in a batch mode (Windows/DOS example): > > > > "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\scalc.exe" --convert-to csv > > "excel_file.xls" > > > > produces "excel_file.csv" in CSV format. > > > > -Alan > > > > On 3/22/2022 1:29 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a > > > practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington > > > <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: > > >> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from excel. > > You would > > >> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric > or > > opendocument > > >> format. > > >> > > >> J' > > >> > > >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > > >> Hi John, > > >> > > >> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take > for > > the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list > > >> > > >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/ > > msg00031.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022- > > 03/msg00031.html> > > >> > > >> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to have > > a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that she > could > > >> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the texi > > code which would require to have a build system running to see the > rendered > > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > > >> > > >> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of handcrafted > > tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC license and we > > would publish it on the gnu website? > > >> > > >> Cheers > > >> > > >> Fritz > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:47:15 -0700 > > From: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> > > To: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> > > Cc: PSPP Development Mailing List <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > > Message-ID: > > <CAA_G9+hvyXcOAazgY6qr7RV+-Zv01bfwW9qJP=jO2vRyEAEK2g@ > > mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > I followed the saga of standardizing the XLSX format in some detail > > when it was going on 10 or so years ago. At least at the time, it was > > said that it would take a lot of work for a program to read it, > > because (for example) a program that read it would need to be able to > > implement recalculation, including all the formulas and functions, > > since the files didn't necessarily include the pre calculated values. > > This suggests to me that, if PSPP were to be able to read these files > > directly, then we would need to use a third-party library or program > > to do it with a reasonable amount of code. > > > > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the > > manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me. > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:41 AM Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org> wrote: > > > > > > You are probably aware, but the XLSX format used in recent versions of > > > Excel is significantly more accessible (it's a ZIP file containing XML > > > and similar data) than the older XLS format. > > > > > > Also, it's fairly easy to open an XLS/XLSX file in LibreOffice and save > > > it as CSV, but you can also use LO in a batch mode (Windows/DOS > example): > > > > > > "C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\program\scalc.exe" --convert-to csv > > > "excel_file.xls" > > > > > > produces "excel_file.csv" in CSV format. > > > > > > -Alan > > > > > > On 3/22/2022 1:29 PM, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > > It's an extraordinarily common feature request, so if there's a > > > > practical way to support direct import then we should consider it. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:26 AM John Darrington > > > > <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote: > > > >> So far as I'm aware, there's no way of importing directly from > > excel. You would > > > >> first have to convert the excel file to something else like gnumeric > > or opendocument > > > >> format. > > > >> > > > >> J' > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > > > >> Hi John, > > > >> > > > >> i just had a look at your automagic screenshots that you take > > for the documentation. Very nice. This Nina who asked on the mailing list > > > >> > > > >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022-03/ > > msg00031.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pspp-users/2022- > > 03/msg00031.html> > > > >> > > > >> how to import from Excel mentioned that it would be nice to > > have a description for this in the manual. I wanted to propose her that > she > > could > > > >> make such a manual which would currently mean to write the > texi > > code which would require to have a build system running to see the > rendered > > pages. Automagic screenshots would be even more advanced. > > > >> > > > >> Did you ever propose users just to make some kind of > > handcrafted tutorial or documentation, provide it in pdf under some CC > > license and we would publish it on the gnu website? > > > >> > > > >> Cheers > > > >> > > > >> Fritz > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 06:25:52 +0100 > > From: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> > > To: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu> > > Cc: Alan Mead <ame...@alanmead.org>, PSPP Development Mailing List > > <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > > Message-ID: <bc4fa759-8bcb-4ee2-b825-c5f4ba595...@gmx.de> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > I answered her in the mailing list to export from excel to csv and to > > import from csv to pspp. That seemed to be sufficient. I was more > wondering > > how to engage people who probably are not in the position to install the > > build environment to render the documentation. > > > > Friedrich > > > > > Am 23.03.2022 um 04:59 schrieb Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>: > > > > > > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the > > > manual. The batch mode instructions look helpful to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 10:29:39 +0100 > > From: John Darrington <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au> > > To: Friedrich Beckmann <friedrich.beckm...@gmx.de> > > Cc: Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>, PSPP Development Mailing List > > <pspp-dev@gnu.org> > > Subject: Re: Your automagic screenshots! > > Message-ID: <YjrogwohhDQ3vxla@jocasta.intra> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > The documentation including screenshots are included in the manual. > > If I recall correctly this includes the Windoze builds last time I > > checked. > > > > Regards, > > > > John > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 06:25:52AM +0100, Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > > > > I answered her in the mailing list to export from excel to csv and > to > > import from csv to pspp. That seemed to be sufficient. I was more > wondering > > how to engage people who probably are not in the position to install the > > build environment to render the documentation. > > > > Friedrich > > > > > Am 23.03.2022 um 04:59 schrieb Ben Pfaff <b...@cs.stanford.edu>: > > > > > > Maybe we should add instructions for conversion to the FAQ or the > > > manual. 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