Hi,

 the "naive" algorithm (NOINITIAL option) seems to work slightly better. I hope the option to hand-supply initial cluster centers will be implemented soon, so that one may start with a hierarchical cluster on a small sample (maybe in R or hand-crafted: see https://www.morewithdata.net/blog/20230424-slow-cluster-hierarchical-clustering-with-pspp.html).

Apart from that, I believe DESCRIPTIVES' output is wrong: listwise valid N cannot exceed a variable valid N. This is not caused by weighting for it also happens with WEIGHT OFF.

On 8/26/26 12:24, ftr wrote:

My previous email lacked the data which produced the curious result.

Hi,

I come back to my error message in Quickcluster some time ago. Now I can reproduce the NaN error in the results.

Valid N 4186

N of cases in clusters : 2194;

This case remains a puzzle to me.


DESCRIPTIVES VARIABLES=community2 ego2 order2/save
Mapping of Variables to Z-scores Source         Target
community2      Zcommunity2
ego2    Zego2
order2  Zorder2

Descriptive Statistics
        N       Mean    Std Dev         Minimum         Maximum
community2      4681,53         -,01    ,87     -3,96   2,40
ego2    4681,53         -,02    ,91     -3,14   2,91
order2  4681,53         -,02    ,85     -3,65   2,31
Valid N (listwise)      5056,29         
        
        
        
Missing N (listwise)    374,77  
        
        
        

QUICK CLUSTER zcommunity2 zego2 zorder2
       /CRITERIA=CLUSTERS(3)
       /MISSING=EXCLUDE
       /PRINT=INITIAL CLUSTER
       /SAVE=CLUSTER(clus3) DISTANCE(distclus3)
Initial Cluster Centers
        Cluster

        1       2       3
Zcommunity2 Z-score of community2       2,02    -4,44   ,58
Zego2 Z-score of ego2   ,61     -2,30   -2,99
Zorder2 Z-score of order2       -3,33   -2,62   2,59

Final Cluster Centers
        Cluster

        1       2       3
Zcommunity2 Z-score of community2       -,01    NaN     1,50
Zego2 Z-score of ego2   ,03     NaN     -6,33
Zorder2 Z-score of order2       -,02    NaN     3,23




Number of Cases in each Cluster
        
        Count
Cluster         1       2193
2       0
3       1
Valid   2194

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