Hi Slau, Thanks for your reply. All understandable. Guess I start at the beginning and take it step by step. I have sighted help, so I hope this speeds up things a bit since like you, I have paying clients every day, and I need to be ready to serve them as well as I did in sonar. Best regards. Jason
Slau Halatyn wrote: > Hi Jason, > > I'm glad you've been able to learn some stuff from my posts. I'm happy to > share whatever I can. Here's the dilemma I face: > > as you can imagine, the requests for my time far outweigh the amount of time > I have. Further, to spend time with one person, for example, is not at all an > efficient use of the limited time I have and, for that matter, even spending > time with a few people is still inefficient. What is perhaps much more > efficient is a series of tutorials that can be accessed by anyone at any > time. Of course, such an undertaking is massive and extremely time-consuming. > It can be done in a very half-ass way or done the right way. Both take time > but the better way takes a truly enormous amount of time. > > Pro Tools training for the masses is something that is actually a lucrative > business. People pay thousands of dollars for such training even when there > are free manuals available that detail everything you'd ever need to know. As > you can imagine, the "market" for blind users is a fraction of that bigger > market and there's just no financial incentive on that front. That said, I've > been approached by a company to do one-on-one training in New York which I > would consider doing as it would be treated as straight studio time for me. > > Anyway, this is all basically to say that I personally would rather spend > some time doing a tutorial specifically on the subject of audio editing in > Pro Tools which, to me, is it's biggest strength and least understood > facility. I know that there are others on this list who are more than capable > of getting beginners up to speed and I'd encourage them to share their > knowledge and experience if they have the time to do so. I wouldn't blame > them if they felt exactly the way I do about efficiency and decide to do a > little tutorial about whatever subject they choose. > > In the mean time, I have to reiterate the importance of reading and studying > the manuals. I say reading and studying because there's a difference. One > needs to just read through the manuals the first time and then study them > which, of course, means reading them again but, during the second reading, > one needs to sit down in front of a Pro Tools system and try the steps > outlined in the manual. This naturally assumes that one knows VoiceOver > inside and out and, by that, I don't mean just knowing how to press Control > and Option and an arrow key. > > > With all that said, one will undoubtedly encounter road blocks and have > questions about how to accomplish something. You know what? When I learned > Pro tools, I didn't have this list and I had to learn by figuring it out on > my own. I read, I experimented and, yes, I did compare notes with some other > users, albeit not online, but it was ultimately my own personal training and > that's what made all the difference for me. Now, of course, new users have it > a lot easier. Not only are pdf manuals accessible (and they weren't when I > was starting out), we now have the benefit of having online conversations > where others can benefit from shared knowledge. That sharing, however, is > far, far more efficient if it's either a well thought out tutorial or a > series of direct and specific questions. For me to answer a question like, > "I'm thinking of switching from Sonar to Pro Tools. What can I do in Pro > Tools?" is simply an impossible thing to answer. No, actually, it's not > impossible but it would take an enormous amount of time and, quite possibly, > frustration and, you know what? A new person will come along two months from > now and ask the same question. Nobody reads Frequently Asked Questions posts > and they're also a hassle to keep up to date so, obviously, there's an > inherent dilemma which I don't know how to solve, especially in an > open-source environment like this one. > > Jason, you've spent 3 days with VoiceOver and I'm sure you feel ready to > conquer the world with Pro Tools. Believe me, I can sympathize with your > eagerness to just dive in and learn it. Well, it just won't happen anywhere > nearly as quickly as you would like, I'm sure. It's going to take time—an > enormous amount of time. I did nothing for six months but read the manuals > and experiment with Pro Tools when I first learned it and that was a full > time job. Beyond that, I spent another six months working on my technique and > work flow so that I could be as efficient as possible. With clients paying > for my time, I needed to be as good as I could possibly be and I took full > responsibility for my learning. Sure, it would've been great to have someone > sit down and teach me but I'm better for having been in the position of > having to learn it on a granular level. > > Anyway, I will certainly attempt to attend some of the conference calls in > the future. The current slot in the evening is not at all good for me most > days but, if I can, I will be there whenever possible. > > Best, > > Slau > > On Mar 15, 2011, at 7:47 AM, studiojay wrote: > > > Hi Slau, > > It's amazing reading your posts on pretty much every topic. Is it > > possible that you can hold a confrence call with us new users to walk > > us through a small session? I think this will be the best way for us > > to get started. Please let us know if this is possible, and if > > necessary, I don't mind paying a fee for this. I would really like to > > get up and running soon, and it would be great to be able to not do > > every thing by trial and error. Please let us know if this is > > possible? Thanks a lot. > > Jason
