Hi Chris,
I see where you're coming from and i agree. Maybe it was for the best that i 
never got PT off the ground and started working with it. It seems that for 
every new upgrade another small but serious piece of the accessibility is taken 
away. Too bad, because i'd seriously hope that the Mac would be a viable 
alternative when it came to doing music at home. Wonder how life would be if i 
took the Reaper route? It's at least partly accessible on the mac, although 
meeters and clips and such aren't accessible as far as i know and i wonder how 
Midi editing is, plus you don't get software synths with it. Oh well...
/Krister

25 jun 2013 kl. 19:07 skrev Chris Gilland <[email protected]>:

> I only can say one thing, and maybe I am really really jumping the gun here, 
> so if so, forgive me, but ok, now you're telling me in addition to ProTools 
> not offerring much sollution to the accessibility problems that we've been 
> discussing on list for god knows now how long, but now you're telling me that 
> the ILok can't be managed online anymore except by a manager which isn't 
> accessible?  OK, I'm sorry to say this, but I purchase a log of plugins to 
> use both for myself and for my clients when they come to record, plus, I'm 
> not able to use the full capassity of my hard drive to it's full potential as 
> I have to dule boot between 10.6 and 10.8.  I want 10.8 primarily, but I'm 
> not about! to put PT on an ML partition, I'm sorry, but it's just not gonna 
> happenb.  Some of you may say, well, so I can't read the tempo, so I can't 
> read the counter clusters, etc. I'll deal with it.  folks? I? can't! deal 
> with it!  I have a job to run here, and part of that is getting clients the 
> best sound I can get them.  I'm sorry, but I'm not making a client pay x 
> amount of dollars while because of not being able to read the counters, I sit 
> here manually by ear trying to nudge things just to the right place on the 
> ruler.  Now, the ILok is doing what it's doing? Granted it's not Avid that is 
> responsible for ILok, I'll grant you that fact, but this is ridiculous!  I 
> swear I'm about ready to throw my PT out the window, go back to Sonar and say 
> to hell with it.  I really, really, really! don't wanna do that, but if it's 
> gonna mean accessibility degrading this much, I don't have time in my 
> business to sit here waiting on things to be fixed.  there is a high enough 
> demand for my services, that I need up to date technology, and if I can't 
> even expect to see improvements being made with updates, then, I find it a 
> bit stupid, quite frankly put, for me to keep over and over just waiting.  I 
> think that Slau is a wonderful wonderful gentlemen, and I think we owe him 
> more than words ever could comprehensibly express of gratitude for his 
> unfailing commitment, as he's not let us down yet even once, but that being 
> said, let's be very very realistic.  Slau has talked over and over and over 
> again to Avid, and these other companies, and I do think some of the devs 
> he's worked with, and c e o's he's talked to etc. seem to get it, but once 
> put into perspective, it seems like the commitment he's providing is being 
> squashed, and frankly, I don't think that is fair to us as blind individuals. 
>  More importantly than us, I don't think it's at all fair to slau himself!
> 
> I dono.  I'll keep PT for now, but I'm telling you something now.  If I don't 
> start seeing improvement over the next rest of this year, between say now and 
> next January, I'm seriously going to reconsider my workflow.  I have nothing 
> against any of you who may strongly object to my opinion, but please 
> understand where I am coming from as well, and really think long and hard 
> about what I'm saying.  It's just not worth me continuing to invest money in 
> a company who promises improvement yet then doesn't seem to follow through. 
> I'll admit this thread's about ILok, not ProTools, but it all goes hand in 
> hand.  If you're telling me ILok isn't manageable accessibly anymore, then 
> basically what you're also telling me by not! telling me, is that any new PT 
> customers who're blind unlessx they get an ILok that comes with PT with the 
> license already on it, are going to be... pardon the language... F***ed! 
> Mainly, because they won't have any way without sighted help to license the 
> product.  I'm sorry, but that in itself to me is all the reason to be a deal 
> breaker.
> 
> Just my two cents worth.  I didn't say you have to agree with me, but I'll 
> say this, agree to disagree, as frankly, I've had a bad enough week as is, 
> and the last thing I need right now, is to babysit immature flamers on/off 
> the list.  Voice your opinion, but be polite about it.  If anything I've 
> said's come across as rude, it's not my entention, but just realize my 
> frustration.  I mean seriously people!  Can you honestly blame me?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. R. Westmoreland" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: ilok license manager
> 
> 
> You aren't kidding. What a mess at first glance. Corporate silliness rules 
> again. You would have thought that Avid would have made a few quiet 
> suggestions to these folks since their products all use the stupid item.
> 
> Any observations from the part of the list that is much more cozy with Avid?
> 
> J. R.
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Stefan Albertshauser 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> It is no longer possible to manage ilok licenses via the web site. They 
>> distribute a license manager. This tool isn't accessible. I want to contact 
>> the company about that. What I need, are suggestions to formulate an 
>> official letter. My english isn't good enough, I think.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Stefan
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