OK, then, yeah, turn all that way way up on the monitor once I have Voiceover on another device isolated, but that still doesn't tell me once all recorded how to then get that volume back to its original level so it's equal with all my other sound. Is that where a stereo master fader track comes into play? I'd create one of them in the session, then bump that volume slider back up to compensate, or is there actually a better way?
Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: Slau Halatyn To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring levels You have to figure out a way to keep VoiceOver and Pro Tools output separate. Your just setting yourself up for a difficult time by trying to run things the way you have them set up. Also, crank your vocal track up to the max on the fader. As you know, this has no effect on recording levels, so boost it. Even a plug-in will have no effect on the recorded track except while it's instantiated. The thing to shoot for, really, is to keep the screen reader, system sounds, etc. (like Chris Smart mentioned) separate from Pro Tools. Slau On May 7, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> wrote: Slau, I have a question then, I find that on my monitors, if I leave my volume slider in ProTools on a vocal track at 0%, then on my interface, I turn my gain dial way down to the point where in PT, on that track, it shows -18DB, that is so profusely quiet, that I literally almost cannot even hear it unless I turn my monitors almost 3 fourths the way up. Which of corse is way! way! quieter than Voiceover speech, or say my music instrument tracks etc. In order to get a good level that is audible, I'm having to way raise that gain. Even if I don't raise the gain on my interface, but pull the slider on the track in PT all the way to +12DB, which is practically all the way up, it only then starts! to become audible. I know you're probably saying, then, ok, Chris, you're music is way way way too hot. Crank it way the hell down! If I do that, then again, the over all level is very crisp and clean and doesn't clip, but at the same time, compared to my over all volume, PT not with standing, the recording volume is so pathetically low in comparison to everything else, that if I crank it up enough to hear it, any other sound that gets fed through like Alex from Voiceover etc. literally is deafening! I understand we're talking two different levels here. the one on my interface is the input volume, whilst the one on the track in PT is the output volume, I totally get that. I'm just not sure how to keep that input gain on my interface real real low, yet achieve the same level on the output volume without having to bring that input gain so hot. I do have an insert I sometimes pop on a vocal track, it's just one of the default pre-installed dynamic compression plugins, and yeah, if I set the preset to vocal leveler, it helps some, but I don't always want compression. All I need is an output volume only boost. I thought about using a Pre, if I could find a good hardware one that was accessible, but even that is gonna be for the input gain, not the output. So, if you have any suggestions, or think you may know what is going on, let me know. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: Slau Halatyn To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring levels Chris, If you're in danger of clipping, you're recording way too hot. With something like a vocal, your final peak should be -9 to -6 dB full scale. That means your average level should be in the range of -18 to -12 dB. That's what headroom is for. You're recording with 24 bits which give you a theoretical dynamic range of of 140 decibels. The sources you're recording are nowhere near 140 decibels, not even close. By pulling back your level, you'll eliminate any concern over clipping. Pro Tools is designed to have average levels at -18 dB. 18 decibels of headroom is plenty for just about anything you'll ever record. Slau On May 7, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> wrote: I'm 100% perfectly aware that I can monitor the level of an individual track by interacting with it, then finding the meter, and then, I can keep hitting vo+F3 to read what's under the Voiceover cursor. what however I'm looking for, is something slightly more robust. Is there a way, and if so, how, that I could asign a hotspot or something similar then have it where it won't read the meter automatically, no, however, if, and only! if, I clip, it'll automatically trigger voiceover to say clipped, or to read the meter in such of a way I'll know I'm clipping? Sometimes, with my hearing loss, it's slightly tricky for me to know audibly, until it gets where it's so badly clipping, that it's flat out disgusting. The issue is, yeah, I could manually look, but what if I only clip on say, one note? If I sing right over that note for instance then check the meter one or two notes early/late, I might miss something very very important. I'm just wonderring the best way to hit that meter dead spot on, so I know instantly! that I'm clipping. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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