Monkey, The difference is this, if you Clip gain or Trem the track down and you plan on using plugins you have a better chance of hitting the plugs sweet spot when mixing. My understanding is just bringing the tracks fader down doesn't change the volue of the track as it hits your inserts.
On 7/9/14, Monkey Pusher <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote: > This seems like over complicating things to me. Just drag the karoke > track fader down and keep an eye on the master meter. if you aren't > clipping the master bus, you are golden. if you are drag the karoake > track down some more. -10db is a good place to start from personal > experience. > > On 7/9/14, Matt Diemert <mcdiem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Chuck, you certainly could do it this way, but sometimes I want to do >> multiple tracks at the same time so the plug-in method what's easier for >> me. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:02 AM, CHUCK REICHEL >>> <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Matt, >>> Jason posted the pt key commands for adjusting clip gain several months >>> ago. >>> So may be Jason can chime in to give the steps to using clip gain again? >>> I haven't used the steps as of yet so I can't give you the exact steps. >>> YMMV >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> CHUCK REICHEL >>> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com >>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com >>> 954-742-0019 >>> Isaiah 26 : 3 >>> Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: >>> because he trusteth in thee. >>> >>> In GOD I Trust >>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 9:55 AM, mcdiemert . wrote: >>>> >>>> Rosco, >>>> I'm on the road much of this morning, and mid day, but will try to do >>>> this for you when I'm back home. I'll email you privately with the >>>> public link. >>>> >>>>> On 7/9/14, Rosco Vittore <relu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> If you could dropbox those plug presets to me, and explain how to go >>>>> about >>>>> importing them, that would be very appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> I don't personally have the Dropbox software, so doing a share folder >>>>> would >>>>> >>>>> not be the easiest. If you could just e-mail me a public link to get >>>>> them, >>>>> >>>>> that would be great. >>>>> >>>>> Rosco. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "mcdiemert ." <mcdiem...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 8:45 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: How should I handle this situation? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Rosco, Typically, I use the Trem plugin which would allow you to say >>>>>> adjust the gain down 10db sort of acting as a pad. However, In pro >>>>>> Tools 11, I can't seem to get VO to adjust the slider in this plug >>>>>> in. >>>>>> I have made a few presets of 5db incraments which I could potentially >>>>>> put in dropbox if you had any intrest in approaching it this way. >>>>>> This >>>>>> is another reason why I keep PT 10 around there are just a few plugs >>>>>> that I need in a pinch that I have little access to in PT 11. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/9/14, Rosco Vittore <relu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do understand that this may be more a mixing question than it is a >>>>>>> PT >>>>>>> question in and of itself. Therefore, I'm going to be brief. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The story goes, that I have a song which I need to record my lead >>>>>>> vocals >>>>>>> >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the top of. The music has already been done as a Sound Choice >>>>>>> karaoke >>>>>>> soundtrack which I have ripped from CD into lossless wave format. >>>>>>> Effectively, I need to import this wave file on a stereo audio track >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> PT >>>>>>> 11. That's not the issue though; I definitely know how to do that. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> problem is, as most of you know, any production material which is in >>>>>>> final >>>>>>> release mainstream finalization is most likely going to already be >>>>>>> mixed, >>>>>>> and more likely still, mastered. This means that they're going to >>>>>>> ride >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> >>>>>>> fader as close to 0DB as they can. The issue is, by default, in PT, >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> meter is set to show my input level, which is generally exactly what >>>>>>> I'd >>>>>>> want. In this case however, I need to find some way before doing >>>>>>> anything >>>>>>> with my master fader that I can get that karaoke track down to about >>>>>>> a -14 >>>>>>> to -12 DB level. If I run my fader on the track from the default of >>>>>>> 0DB >>>>>>> downward to a negative value, say, -4DB we'll just say, that isn't >>>>>>> going >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> effect the meter readout right to the right of that fader since >>>>>>> we're >>>>>>> dealing with the input level, not the output. Am I understanding >>>>>>> correctly? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words, regardless where I move that volume slider, the >>>>>>> meter >>>>>>> isn't >>>>>>> >>>>>>> going to change read a lower or higher value than before. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If this is the case, and I'm correct, then what's the best technique >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> dealing with this? I just don't want all that extra gain in there on >>>>>>> top >>>>>>> >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the vocal and all else. If I leave this volume where it is, no doubt >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> masterring process when I start making my final mix, I'm gonna peek >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> master fader's meter bigtime which is totally undesirable! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you all recommend anything? How would be the best way to deal >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should I configure PT to show the meters as output instead of input? >>>>>>> If >>>>>>> so, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> how do I do it? If not, what would be advised? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rosco. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Warm Regards: >>>>>> Matt Diemert >>>>>> 330-980-0046 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> >>>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send >>>>>> an >>>>>> >>>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Warm Regards: >>>> Matt Diemert >>>> 330-980-0046 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Warm Regards: Matt Diemert 330-980-0046 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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