Re: Heads-up with plugins

Slau Halatyn Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:21:12 -0800

Hi David,

I'm attaching the rtf instructions for Move Mouse but also pasting its contents below. Also, organizing plug-in presets within subfolders is fine. The folders will show up as submenus within the presets pop-up list in the plug-in window.

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\f0\b\fs30 \cf0 About MoveMouse
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 MoveMouse was written to solve a very specific problem for the blind. Some developers neglect to label some of their buttons, so VoiceOver can\'92t identify them. \'a0Now assume the blind person knows a sighted person with the same application. \'a0The sighted person could tell the blind person, \'93start at this (good) button and go half an inch to the right and a quarter inch up to find the hidden button\'94. \'a0That\'92s only useful if the blind person could move the cursor by a precise amount. \'a0Enter MoveMouse.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 MoveMouse is an executable program that calls four OSX Services (which are Automator Workflows). The Four Workflows move the mouse 0.1" left, right, up or down using keystroke combinations. For testing purposes each Service can also invoke a different sound to allow the user to verify that they're moving in the correct direction (available on request).
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\f0\b\fs30 \cf0 Installing MoveMouse Services
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 1. Unzip the Distribution zip file.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 2. This will create a subdirectory, called \'93MoveMouseDistribution\'94 with two items: MoveMouse and a folder called FourWorkflows.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 3. Move MoveMouse to \'a0your Applications Folder. (Make sure you put it in /Applications, not the user level Applications.)
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 4. Next we need to open your (hidden) user Library folder. \'a0Open a new Finder window or tab.
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\f0\fs30 Under the Go menu, navigate to "Computer" and press the Option key. The menu item will change to "Library." While holding down the Option key, press the Control key and press the Space Bar. The Finder window will now display the hidden Library folder. Open the Services folder within the user Library folder.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 5. Now open the FourWorkflows folder. \'a0Copy and paste all four of the workflows into the Services folder we just opened in the previous step.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 6. You should now be able to use the four workflows. In all of your applications and the Finder, if you click on the name of the application in the menubar and pull down to Services, you should now see the four workflows MoveMouseUp, Down, Right, and Left.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 7. You can test them right now. \'a0As you invoke each of them you should hear four different sounds indicating that the workflow is moving the cursor 0.1" up, down, right, or left.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 8. If MoveMouse works for you - skip to step 9. If not, read on. Because MoveMouse is an executable that you just downloaded from the Internet, depending on your security setting, Mac OS X may not let you just run it. To bypass this security feature (because you trust US, don\'92t you?), navigate to the Applications folder in your Finder window. Locate \'91MoveMouse\'92 in the list of applications. Right-click on the file name and select \'91Open\'92. A dialog box should appear, saying \'93\'91MoveMouse\'92 is from an unidentified developer. Are you sure you want to open it?\'94. \'a0Click \'91Open\'92 to allow Mac OS X to always run this application.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 9. If you'd like to use keystrokes to invoke the four workflows, open System Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts. In the left pane, click on Services and scroll down in the right pane until you find the four services (MoveMouseUp, etc).
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 10. Check the box to the left of each one, and then tap on the right where it says "none", which will change to a button that says "add shortcut". At this point you can tap on the \'93add shortcut\'94 button and then hold down the key combination you desire to assign to that workflow. We have been using command-option-control-shift and the corresponding arrow key, but you can choose any keystroke you desire.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 11. Cleanup: You can now safely delete the Distribution zip file, and the folders created when you unzipped that file.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 For feedback, please send all inquiries to {\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "mailto:[email protected]"}}{\fldrslt \cf2 \ul \ulc2 [email protected]}}
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\f0\b\fs30 \cf0 How MoveMouse Works
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 MoveMouse is hard-wired to move your mouse 0.1 inches each time you invoke one of the Services, so it needs to determine the pixels per inch of your screen. MoveMouse queries your computer\'92s Primary display for its physical dimensions and pixel resolution in x/y. \'a0From that, it determines pixels per inch. If you have a second display attached, make sure the display on which you\'92re moving the mouse is the Primary display. \'a0(This is controlled in System Preferences, Displays but is accomplished via dragging a (probably hidden from VoiceOver) banner from one virtual display to another.)
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 The Automator workflows allow MoveMouse to be used as a Service. These workflows simply run a terminal shell script that runs the MoveMouse app with appropriate parameters. If you would like a version that plays a sound to indicate that the mouse has moved, please contact the development team.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 MoveMouse\'92s script was inspired by Jacob Salmela in a post he did in 2013 ({\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "http://jacobsalmela.com/os-x-scripting-how-to-script-a-mouse-click-at-x-y-coordinate/"}}{\fldrslt \cf2 \ul \ulc2 http://jacobsalmela.com/os-x-scripting-how-to-script-a-mouse-click-at-x-y-coordinate/}}) but some of the commands he used have since been deprecated, hence MoveMouse was built pretty much from scratch. \'a0Jacob notes that his tool was inspired by a Macworld article in 2008 ({\field{\*\fldinst{HYPERLINK "http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2008051406323031"}}{\fldrslt \cf2 \ul \ulc2 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2008051406323031}}) so the project lives on.
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\f0\b\fs30 \cf0 Known Issues
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 If you hit the keystrokes too quickly or hold the keystroke down, MoveMouse will eventually fail. The only way to get out of this is to log out and back into your account.
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\f0\b\fs30 \cf0 License
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 MoveMouse is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. \'a0
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 This means you can modify and redistribute the code but you must distribute under the same rules, give attribution to Dorothy Rendon as the creator, and you cannot use this tool for commercial purposes.
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\f0\fs30 \cf0 MoveMouse is supplied without warranty of any sort, use at your own risk.
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About MoveMouse

MoveMouse was written to solve a very specific problem for the blind. Some developers neglect to label some of their buttons, so VoiceOver canâ€™t identify them. Now assume the blind person knows a sighted person with the same application. The sighted person could tell the blind person, â€œstart at this (good) button and go half an inch to the right and a quarter inch up to find the hidden buttonâ€�. Thatâ€™s only useful if the blind person could move the cursor by a precise amount. Enter MoveMouse.

MoveMouse is an executable program that calls four OSX Services (which are Automator Workflows). The Four Workflows move the mouse 0.1" left, right, up or down using keystroke combinations. For testing purposes each Service can also invoke a different sound to allow the user to verify that they're moving in the correct direction (available on request).

Installing MoveMouse Services

1. Unzip the Distribution zip file.

2. This will create a subdirectory, called â€œMoveMouseDistributionâ€� with two items: MoveMouse and a folder called FourWorkflows.

3. Move MoveMouse to your Applications Folder. (Make sure you put it in /Applications, not the user level Applications.)

4. Next we need to open your (hidden) user Library folder. Open a new Finder window or tab.

Under the Go menu, navigate to "Computer" and press the Option key. The menu item will change to "Library." While holding down the Option key, press the Control key and press the Space Bar. The Finder window will now display the hidden Library folder. Open the Services folder within the user Library folder.

5. Now open the FourWorkflows folder. Copy and paste all four of the workflows into the Services folder we just opened in the previous step.

6. You should now be able to use the four workflows. In all of your applications and the Finder, if you click on the name of the application in the menubar and pull down to Services, you should now see the four workflows MoveMouseUp, Down, Right, and Left.

7. You can test them right now. As you invoke each of them you should hear four different sounds indicating that the workflow is moving the cursor 0.1" up, down, right, or left.

8. If MoveMouse works for you - skip to step 9. If not, read on. Because MoveMouse is an executable that you just downloaded from the Internet, depending on your security setting, Mac OS X may not let you just run it. To bypass this security feature (because you trust US, donâ€™t you?), navigate to the Applications folder in your Finder window. Locate â€˜MoveMouseâ€™ in the list of applications. Right-click on the file name and select â€˜Openâ€™. A dialog box should appear, saying â€œâ€˜MoveMouseâ€™ is from an unidentified developer. Are you sure you want to open it?â€�. Click â€˜Openâ€™ to allow Mac OS X to always run this application.

9. If you'd like to use keystrokes to invoke the four workflows, open System Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts. In the left pane, click on Services and scroll down in the right pane until you find the four services (MoveMouseUp, etc).

10. Check the box to the left of each one, and then tap on the right where it says "none", which will change to a button that says "add shortcut". At this point you can tap on the â€œadd shortcutâ€� button and then hold down the key combination you desire to assign to that workflow. We have been using command-option-control-shift and the corresponding arrow key, but you can choose any keystroke you desire.

11. Cleanup: You can now safely delete the Distribution zip file, and the folders created when you unzipped that file.

For feedback, please send all inquiries to [email protected]

How MoveMouse Works

MoveMouse is hard-wired to move your mouse 0.1 inches each time you invoke one of the Services, so it needs to determine the pixels per inch of your screen. MoveMouse queries your computerâ€™s Primary display for its physical dimensions and pixel resolution in x/y. From that, it determines pixels per inch. If you have a second display attached, make sure the display on which youâ€™re moving the mouse is the Primary display. (This is controlled in System Preferences, Displays but is accomplished via dragging a (probably hidden from VoiceOver) banner from one virtual display to another.)

The Automator workflows allow MoveMouse to be used as a Service. These workflows simply run a terminal shell script that runs the MoveMouse app with appropriate parameters. If you would like a version that plays a sound to indicate that the mouse has moved, please contact the development team.

MoveMouseâ€™s script was inspired by Jacob Salmela in a post he did in 2013 (http://jacobsalmela.com/os-x-scripting-how-to-script-a-mouse-click-at-x-y-coordinate/) but some of the commands he used have since been deprecated, hence MoveMouse was built pretty much from scratch. Jacob notes that his tool was inspired by a Macworld article in 2008 (http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2008051406323031) so the project lives on.

Known Issues

If you hit the keystrokes too quickly or hold the keystroke down, MoveMouse will eventually fail. The only way to get out of this is to log out and back into your account.

License

MoveMouse is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.

This means you can modify and redistribute the code but you must distribute under the same rules, give attribution to Dorothy Rendon as the creator, and you cannot use this tool for commercial purposes.

MoveMouse is supplied without warranty of any sort, use at your own risk.

On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:49 PM, David Eagle <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Slau, Iâ€™ve found the TFX files. There all in one Waves folder, even though there are multiple plugins represented. This is obviously fine for my personal use, but I was wondering for distribution purposes if it would be better for me to create subfolders for each plugin, so that people can easily download the plugin settings that are applicable to them? Would doing this confuse ProTools when I go to load the plugins?

Regarding Move Mouse: there doesnâ€™t seem to be a ReadMe file in the atachment Iâ€™ve been sent. I get some UNIX file that opens in terminal, and then the four work flow instalation files.

On 2 Dec 2014, at 18:18, Slau Halatyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Go to your Documents folder,
find the Pro Tools folder,
find the Plug-in Settings folder.
Inside the Plug-in Settings folder you'll find sub folders for each plug-in. within each folder are .tfx files which are the presets.

HTH,

Slau

On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Me <[email protected]> wrote:

Great, thanks Chuck. As soon as someone let me know how to export my preset files, EyeWill send them.

Sent from my iPod

On 2 Dec 2014, at 17:26, CHUCK REICHEL <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi David,
Slau would probably be more precise on this but heres what I know.
You half to make a keyboard short cut for each mouse move, IE move down move up & so forth.
In system preferences go to keyboard then shortcuts then the services tab.
its under the services tab that you put in the short cut key commands.
Slau & my self are using "shift control command" in conjunction with the arrows.
If I want to move the mouse to the right I hit shift control command right arrow and move mouse confirms the move for each 1/10 of a inch.
HTH
Chuck

On Dec 2, 2014, at 12:09 PM, David Eagle wrote:

Thanks Chuck. Forgive my ignorance, but I have ran the four work flow instalation files. When I go into a plugin in ProTools and go into services, and select one of the mouse move options, I get a message saying that there is a shell script error. Iâ€™m not really sure how to work Move Mouse.

On 2 Dec 2014, at 16:44, CHUCK REICHEL <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi David,

Here ya go. :)
The short time I've been using Move Mouse its great once you know where the hidden treasure is located.

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Could somebody try it on an older os?
Like snow Leopard and ML?
TIA
Talk soon
YMMV
Chuck
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On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:22 AM, David Eagle wrote:

Iâ€™ve been looking for the MoveMouse file, but to no avail. Could you resend the attachment Chuck. Also, this could be a good application to put on the ProTools with Speech website.

On 2 Dec 2014, at 01:56, CHUCK REICHEL <[email protected]> wrote:

Ahoy List?
Has anybody tried "move Mouse" with plugins that are not VoiceOver friendly?

I just started using it on pt 11 and so far its getting to "uncharted Places" so to speak! :)
Also has any body installed move mouse on snow leopard?
I think it should work but not sure?
TIA
Chuck
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On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

Hey Ricky, did you ever come across that Trail Guide to the Body?

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Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins

Does anyone know if that preset list is transferable?if it would be we could get a group together by the presets have someone to load them and use that transferable list. I guess that would be not possible just wishful thinking.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Poppa Bear <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello David, you should be able to go to the parameter that you would like to change and then Simply interact with that parameter by using the interact command which would be VO/Shift/Down arrow and then you could change that particular setting. As far as the waves presets, there are some people on this list who have taken a lot hours to compile many presets to a lot of the waves plugins. Perhaps somebody will care to share them with you along with the instructions to load them up. The second way is to have sighted help. In Waves it has its own preset load button and voice over cannot activate it. A sighted person would have to click on that load button and then make a selection from the lists of presets and then load it. Once the preset is loaded you can go to the settings button in the plugin window and click save and it will be saved in Protools native preset list.
HTH

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Subject: Headsup with plugins

Hi friends, Iâ€™ve finally got PT11 up and running. Iâ€™m a bit confused when it comes to using plugins. Iâ€™ve inserted a multi channel plugin on track 1. Depending on the plugin I can see the various presets. Letâ€™s take something that I assume to be accessible like the 3-7 band EQ that comes pre-installed. I can select a preset absolutely fine, but I donâ€™t seem to be able to work out how to see the automation perimeters. I can activate the plugin automation button and find a list of automatable parameters, but then I canâ€™t change these. How is this achieved please?

My second question is to do with those plugins that do not have their presets exposed to VoiceOver. For instance, I canâ€™t choose any presets in the waves plugins. I believe there is a way of saving a preset file with sighted help?

Thanks for your help.

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