Slau, I actually talked to Chuck this morning, and we both went through it verbally together and figured out what I was doing wrong. The pre-roll had nothing to do with it in my case, although thank you very very much for that tip. I didn't even think about that.
The problem was a combination it seems of three things. 1. I didn't have bar 111 through the end of my tempo change at bar 117 selected on my time ruler. 2. I was using the event/tempo operations/constant dialog rather than the main tempo operation window within event/tempo. 3. Finally and probably the absolute most important: I didn't realize that before the BPM field, there were two fields to mark your tempo change selection. One for the start, and one for the end. I'm speaking of within the tempo window. So, what was happning was, I don't know exactly why, but for some really bizarre reason that I've yet to be able to explain, the start and end were both set to bar 111. Therefore, I really didn't have a range of bars for the retard. Now here's a question for you music theory experienced people. I don't want to use wrong music termanology here. Is a tempo change only considered a retard if it gradually slows down in pace, or could a sudden change of tempo from one bar's BPM to another bar's slower BPM, like what I'm trying to do also be considered as a retard. If not, then what would the correct term be I'd want to use? Anyway Slau, getting back on track, sorry about that, had to ask though, once I set the start and end correctly in that dialog, it worked perfectly. I must confess, I feel a little bit stupid for not catching that in the first place, but thank you Chuck, for helping me with it this morning. It was very much appreciated! Have a blessed day, everyone. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: Slau Halatyn To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Tempo help needed, as I'm undoubtedly doing something wrong. Chris, The Conductor track needs to be active for any tempo change events within the session to take effect. Disabling the conductor track will change everything to one static tempo. Keep the conductor track enabled. Next, make sure you don't have pre-roll enabled. Either verify that it's not checked under the Options menu or go to the Transport window and bring up an Item Chooser and type p r e. Make sure that button is off. Make sure Count-in is not enabled. All of these things can throw you off. You already created your 100 bpm tempo event at the start of the timeline. Now go to the bar you wish the tempo change to occur. Now, I know you said bar 111 but you have to verify that's exactly the bar. If your pre roll was on earlier and you listened to it by ear and then looked at the counter, your calculation would be off by the number of pre-roll bars you had set. That's why you have to be a thousand percent sure of where you want your tempo change to occur. Now, go to that bar and bring up the Tempo Event window. Navigate to the bpm field and click it once. Now, type a decimal first then 85 then Enter. The first time you click on that field, it's not the first part of the number that is highlighted but the second part after the decimal point. Pressing the decimal key on the num pad will cycle the selection over to the field in front of the decimal. Press the Apply button and you should be good to go. Slau On Jan 9, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> wrote: OK guys, here is my situation. I have a song which I'm tracking in the studio which is 4/4 time, and for 99.999% of the song, 100BPM tempo. The last 3 bars of the song however have a tempo change down to 85 bars. Yes, my session, indeed, has a click track. So, so far, what I have done is, I went to the event menu in my menu bar, and to tempo operations. In here, I then went to constant. Before I go any further, let me clarify something which could prove disastrous in the long run, if I don't do so. This tempo change is absolutely *not!* a gradual thing. It literally is a complete jump from 100 down to 85. So anyway, getting back to the constant tempo window, in here, I've set the tempo at the start of my session, by hitting return, to 100 within the constant tempo dialog. Then, I am moving to bar 111, which is where I need the tempo to change. I'm doing this by pressing numpad slash, then typing 1 1 1 on the numpad, followed by numpad enter. Now, once on bar 111, I'm bringing up the event menu in the menu bar, going back to tempo operations, then back to constant once again. In here I am now setting the tempo to 85BPM. The strange thing is, not only is that not taking effect at bar 111 as it should, but when I then hit space bar to play things back, and make sure my click track follows that tempo change, I find that it's landing my play head at a totally different place in the session, (often times I can't get it to be consistent where exactly it lands.) Not only this, but the tempo change doesn't take effect. I thought perhaps maybe I needed to go into the transport window, and disable the conductor track to make this work, but when I do that, I then have the issue of in the constant tempo screen, I can't change it. As soon as I disable the conductor track, the over all constant tempo throughout the whole session jumps to 120BPM, and try as I may, no matter how hard I try, I cannot get any tempo modification to stick. So, clearly, I'm doing something wrong. How do I do this? No, I have never done tempo changes before in ProTools. I've never had the need until now. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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