I'd definately say check the RAM, but not with a software test. Swap
the ram from the o lder macbook int o the newer one and see if the
issue persit. If it doesn't then you know there is a issue there.

On 6/15/16, Alan Macdonald <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Rocco,
>
> I'm running a 2012 Macbook pro with yosemite and pro tools 12.4. I first
> encountered this problem with the same machine whilst on mavericks and it is
> indeed the most frustrating and swear inducing problem I've encountered.
>
> Whilst on mavericks, I used to use a Digi 002 when I first saw this. I had
> that setup working for ages on mountain lion with no issues. I tried all the
> steps you mentioned from buffer size adjustments and I even borrowed another
> 002 unit from a friend but with the same result. He tested my 000 unit with
> his system and again it worked fine so all problems pointed towards my
> Macbook.
>
> Now, here's the thing... When one of the small security updates appeared, I
> installed it, did the necessary reset and thought nothing of it. But when I
> went back into pro tools my setup went from virtually unusable to working
> like a dream. At this point I should stress that pro tools still worked fine
> without the Digi connected so I could still work with one hand tied behind
> my back but after this update my relief was unmatched, especially as I was
> only a couple of months away from finishing college.
>
> Since moving to yosemite, it was fine at first also until I had to install
> another security update. And sure enough, this set me back to the dreaded
> cpu overload and buffering messages. Off the top of my head I think that was
> late last year or early this year. Like you said, there is no rhyme nor
> reason and sometimes it works for a bit and others it's a disaster. I've
> upgraded to a 003 now but it's the same issue.
>
> Now, another software security update appeared in mid may which I installed
> and did the necessary reset again. I went on holiday right after that and
> haven't had time to check if it's sorted it out this time or not as I'm not
> long home but I'll be getting my teeth back into it next week so I'll let
> you know.
>
> Is there any way you can think back to when these problems first appeared or
> can you match them to the timeline of the software updates I've to see if
> the time scale fits what I've said here? Quite simply if I get it to a point
> when it works flawlessly again then I'm going to ignore said updates.
>
> If anything I've said here has sparked any further ideas or suggestions from
> anyone then I'm also keen to hear them.
>
> Hope this helps you in some way Rocco,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan,
> Oban, Scotland
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 14:39, Phil Muir <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yup.  Known bad RAM or faulty hardware components to do this kind of
>> thing
>> on Mac's.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf
>> Of mcdiemert
>> Sent: 15 June 2016 14:04
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: cpu overload messages, drop outs, and other random pro tools
>> issues
>>
>> To add to this, I'd be curious how you're connecting your interface to
>> the
>> MBp?
>> The only other time I experienced something like what you are
>> describing, turned out I had a bad piece of Ram in my Mac mini.  Agree
>> with Slau here, deffinitly sounds hardware related. I believe there is
>> an apple test you can run pre startup to test all hardware components
>> its been years since I've run such a test, and I don't believe VO
>> spoke during the process.
>> Write me off list, if you can't find how to run the test, and I'll dig
>> in my documentation and get you some directions.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 6/15/16, Slau Halatyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Rocco,
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your troubles. For what it's worth, your subject
>>> line
>>> implies that it's a Pro Tools issue and it certainly does affect Pro
>>> Tools
>>> but it clearly sounds like it's a hardware/software issue with the 2014
>>> machine and El Capitan. You seem to have followed all of the right steps
>> to
>>> isolate and treat the problem. The only thing that I could think of at
>> this
>>> point is to roll back to Yosemite. that's the only thing that I can
>>> think
>> of
>>> that might bypass any hardware and software conflicts. Please keep us
>> posted
>>> on how things develop.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Slau
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 1:06 AM, Rocco Fiorentino
>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've been having some strange issues with my machine and working with
>>>> Pro
>>>> Tools the last few months and was hoping someone here either
>>>> experienced
>>>> something similar or had suggestions for troubleshooting. All of this
>> will
>>>> take some explanation, so please bear with me.
>>>>
>>>> I have two macBook Pros. One is a 2012, and the other is a newer 2014.
>>>> Both are laptops. The 2012 model has a 2.5 ghz intel core i5 processor,
>>>> while the 2014 macbook has a 2.8 ghz intel core i5 processor. The 2014
>>>> model is my main computer, while the 2012 one was just an old laptop I
>>>> still have, not really being used. For most of this discussion, I'm
>>>> referring to the 2014 macBook. I'm using a Roland Studio Capture USB
>> audio
>>>> interface.
>>>>
>>>> Everything seemed to be working ok, until I updated to Elcaputan in
>>>> November of 2015. I'm not saying that Elcaputan is the cause of the
>>>> issues, but I'm saying that's when I think I started to see these
>>>> things
>>>> start to appear, gradually. First, pro tools had very rare, random
>>>> errors
>>>> of "cpu overload" during playback or recording. My buffer size was set
>>>> to
>>>> 256 samples, which hadn't changed, but these cpu errors started to
>>>> appear
>>>> more frequently and with less playback or recording time between them.
>>>> Then I cleared out some old files, did a clean install of everything,
>>>> and
>>>> everything was ok again, for the time being. That only lasted for about
>>>> 2
>>>> months. Near the end of January, the cpu issue started coming back,
>>>> with
>>>> vengeance. There were times when I couldn't even play through a measure
>> of
>>>> a session without it popping up with the error, and the only way to
>>>> resolve it was by restarting pro tools, or sometimes the whole machine.
>>>> Recordings started to sound like record players, because of all the
>>>> popping and clicking when it did allow the session to play back without
>>>> the error. And then there were the days that nothing went wrong.
>> Recording
>>>> was perfect, no errors, everything was fine. But those perfect days
>>>> started to become fewer and fewer, while nothing was really changing. I
>>>> updated everything to the latest versions, including plugins, pro
>>>> tools,
>>>> my interface driver, mac os, etc.
>>>>
>>>> By the beginning of May it had gotten worse again, this time starting
>>>> to
>>>> effect the system sound itself without pro tools. If I send system
>>>> audio
>>>> to my interface simply from the output of the sound preferences, audio
>>>> plays back perfectly, for about 5 minutes. Then it just stops. The
>>>> interface is still on, everything looks ok, no errors, but no audio
>>>> either. If I restart the audio stream, or the song playing, etc. it is
>>>> fine for another 5 minutes, then the same thing happens. Confused by
>>>> all
>>>> of this, I made a backup of the entire 2014 machine, and cloned it to
>>>> my
>>>> 2012 macbook. Strangely, none of these issues happen on my 2012
>>>> macbook.
>>>> No cpu overload errors, no dropping out of audio, no pro tools crashes
>> due
>>>> to this, and no popping on recordings. But, the computer is
>>>> significantly
>>>> slower then my 2014 model, so I'd rather not make it my primary
>>>> machine.
>>>> But I still don't understand why this older laptop is performing better
>>>> then my newer, more powerful one.
>>>>
>>>> I then took my 2014 macbook to the Apple store, to see what the genius
>> bar
>>>> had to say. They sent it out for repair, and I got it back after they
>>>> replaced the logic board and fan. This still had no effect on the
>>>> system
>>>> or the issues I'm having. So now I'm in the technology blame game. I
>>>> called roland, and explained everything, and they told me it's a
>>>> problem
>>>> with my computer. But Apple tells me there's nothing wrong with my
>>>> hardware. And if it was something software related, wouldn't it show
>>>> itself in the clone of this machine on my 2012 macbook? All of my
>> sessions
>>>> are on an external hard drive. I've tried moving some to internal, with
>> no
>>>> change in performance. I'm running pro tools 12.5, and elcaputan
>>>> version
>>>> 10.11.4 on both machines. My sessions are usually somewhere between 50
>>>> to
>>>> 80 tracks or so, with numerous plugins on each track, which is a lot,
>>>> but
>>>> why then, does the older laptop sail through it like it's nothing? If
>>>> anything, the older laptop should be having the issues that my newer
>>>> one
>>>> is having. Also, I'm using an artist mix control surface, powered by
>>>> Econ
>>>> and the EuControl software. All of that is up-to-date as well.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what my next step is now. Do I do a clean reinstall of
>>>> everything, and risk that my problem still may not be solved? Do I just
>>>> deal with it like this? Or do I switch to my older laptop and deal with
>>>> the lag of VoiceOver, etc. for better pro tools performance? I do have
>>>> wifi and bluetooth enabled on both machines, because I'm working on
>>>> getting ethernet in the room I'm I'm in at the moment, but in the
>> meantime
>>>> I still need internet. Turning one or the other or both off for long
>>>> periods of time has not seemed to effect protools performance, for
>>>> better
>>>> or worse on either machine. I apologize for the lengthy post, and hope
>>>> I
>>>> wasn't too detailed, but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Please let me know if I need to clarify anything.
>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>>
>>>> Rocco Fiorentino
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