good stuff thanks

On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 1:59:26 PM UTC-6, Kevin Reeves wrote:
>
> Hey folks. I saw the release info for the fader port 8 come through via 
> Pro Tools expert and I wanted to pass on some important information to the 
> list.
> What sets this controller apart from others is the extensive HUI 
> integration.
> If you look at the Behringer forums for their x touch, you’ll see a bunch 
> of Pro Tools users complaining that certain features don’t work as 
> advertised. In response, Behringer passes the buck saying that it’s the 
> limitations of HUI.
> We all know that  HUI is quite limited in scope compared to the command 8 
> and eucon protocols.
> With that said, judging by the information I’m pasting below, when 
> manufacturers choose to take the time to fully integrate HUI, the results 
> can be staggering.
> Because of this, I’m definitely choosing this as my control surface and 
> will be grabbing one soon.
>
> Here come the details.
>
>
> The HUI implementation is quite comprehensive for Pro Tools users, in fact 
> Dominic at PreSonus helpfully created this information for me:
>
> *Faderport 8 and ProTools (HUI) Workflows Fader Assignment modes:*
>
>    - Track - Faders control Volume automation: Select will select a 
>    channel
>    - Edit Plugins - Enter “Edit Plugins” mode: *See section at the bottom*
>    - Sends - Enter “Send” control mode: *See section at the bottom*
>    - Pan - Pan control flipped to faders: By default will control left 
>    pan of any dual pan channels: Press Shift and Pan will be assigned to 
> right 
>    Pan in ProTools (Dual Panning)
>
> *Modifiers*
>
> Shift - The only modifier which is local to the FP8 itself. This will not 
> function as a DAW modifier.
>
> *Modes*
>
>    - Channel - Scroll by channel
>    - Zoom - Horizontal Zoom with big encoder or "Prev" and "Next" buttons
>    - Scroll - 1st Press = Audio Scrub, 2nd Press = Faster Audio Scrub
>    - Bank - Bank by 8 channels
>    - Master - Assign Master Fader to big encoder knob (not working)
>    - Click – Turns click on and off (on our test model Pro Tools must be 
>    the app in focus for this to work)
>    - Section - No Function
>    - Marker - Engage Marker mode; Press big encoder knob to drop a 
>    marker. Marker Menu opens, press again to dismiss. "Prev" and "Next" 
> buttons
>
> *Automation Modes (All work as labelled)*
>
> Latch Trim Off Touch Write Read
>
> *Edit and User Modes*
>
>    - Save - Save
>    - Redo - Redo (but currently does Undo as a bug)
>    - Undo - Undo
>    - User 1 - Arrangement
>    - User 2 - Mixer
>    - User 3 - Transport
>
> *Function Buttons*
>
>    - F1 - Clears Clip and Peak Holds
>    - F2 - NA
>    - F3 - NA
>    - F4 - NA
>    - F5 - NA
>    - F6 - NA
>    - F7 - NA
>    - F8 - Toggle between Smart Tools
>
> *Transport Controls (Work as labeled)*
>
>    - Play/Pause - Toggle Play/Stop of Transport
>    - Stop - Stop Transport
>    - Record - Record Ready; Press along with Play to engage Record mode
>    - Rew - Single press advance by Bar, Second, Frame, Base Samplerate 
>    (e.g. 44100)
>    - Press and Hold to advance by finer increments
>    - Fwd - Same as Rewind
>    - Return to Zero ( REW +FWD) - Return to Zero
>
> *Channel Controls*
>
>    - Solo - Solo
>    - Mute - Mute
>    - Solo Clear - Solo clear (8 currently focused channels)
>    - Mute Clear - Mute clear (8 currently focused channels)
>    - Record Arm - Enable Record arm mode; Press channel select buttons to 
>    engage record arm per track
>    -  Record Arm All - Record Arm all tracks in session
>    - Bypass - Bypass a plugin in Edit Plugins mode
>    - Macro - Compare plugin settings in Edit Plugins mode
>    - Link - Used in Edit Plugins mode to enter "Assign Plugins" mode; can 
>    select plugins to instantiate on channel slot using the fader and "Select" 
>    button to commit.
>    - All - (Shift Bypass) NA
>    - Open - NA
>    - Lock - NA
>
> *Sends*
>
>    - Press "Sends" button to enter Sends mode
>       - Sends slots A - E will be listed in the Scribble strips (This is 
>       the most HUI supports)
>          - Press the "Select" button of the lettered Send slot you want 
>          to adjust
>          - Use Fader to adjust the Send level per channel
>          - Pan/Param knob will adjust Send Slot for the currently 
>          selected channel
>          - Pressing Track will exit from this mode
>          - Pressing "Select" button assigned to "ESC" will exit from 
>          Sends mode.
>       
> *Edit Plugins*
>
>    - F5 switches between "Velocity Sensitive" and "Fixed" modes
>       - "Velocity Sensitive" means parameter selection is based on how 
>       fast you move the fader in Plugin Edit mode
>       - "Fixed" mode means you can scroll through the entire range of a 
>       parameter.
>    - Press "Edit Plugins" button
>       - Faders 1 - 4 are now assigned to control parameters of focused 
>       plugin
>       - Select buttons 1 - 4 are assigned to button switches in focused 
>       plugin
>       - Pan/Param knob switches paging of 4 fader assignments to all 
>       parameters of a plugin.
>       - Scribble strip shows the parameter assigned to fader and above 
>       that to the "Select" button if applicable.
>    - "Link" button is the "Assign Plugins" button
>       - Inserts 1 - 4 are shown for the currently selected channel
>       - Pan/Param knob pages to Inserts 5 - 8
>       - If plugin is not focused user will see "Press Insert Select of 
>       channel" message
>          - Press "Shift" and all "Select" buttons turn yellow.
>          - Press the yellow "Select" buttons to enable "Insert Switch" of 
>          a channel. You will see the name of the channel after pressing the 
> yellow 
>          "Select" button. You can also bank/scroll channels to any channel in 
> mix.
>          - Press "Shift" again to exit "Insert Switch" selection and 
>          return to the Insert view of the channel that was selected in 
> "Insert 
>          Switch" mode
>       - If a plugin is assigned to an insert slot, press the Teal 
>    coloured "Select" button of the insert you want to edit.
>    - If a plugin slot is empty, move the fader for that insert slot to 
>    scroll through the list of available plugins to assign.
>       - Press the "Select" button when selection of plugin is chosen to 
>       commit and assign the plugin to that insert slot
>    - Red "Bypass" button "bypasses" focused plugin
>    - Red "Macro" button "compares" plugin changes 
>
> [image: Faderport-8-Review 2]
> Summary
>
> The Faderport 8 works as expected (even this pre-release version) 
> performed well. The HUI integration is comprehensive and should meet the 
> needs of most users. The Faderport 8 can be used both in tracking, with 
> options to arm tracks, set the click etc. as well as in mixing with all the 
> features needed including all automation options such as Write, Latch, 
> Touch etc. 
>
> The faders are as quiet as any I've heard on other units and in fact a 
> seem a lot less noisy than the rattle of some I recall on units like my old 
> Digi 002 and Command 8. 
>
> You can move between fader channels by channel or bank them in sets of 8 
> if you wish. Some have asked about the inclusion of a Master Fader and for 
> those using it with DAWs other than Studio One, the Master fader is 
> allocated just like any other channel. 
>
>

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