Hi John, Agreed, having access to the various flavors of meters would be helpful but the problem of LUFS readings cannot be solved by a real-time meter. We still have to rely on the overall analysis which only plug-ins currently offer. Thanks for interfacing with them to help further the accessibility.
Cheers, Slau > On Oct 29, 2018, at 11:55 AM, John André Lium-Netland > <eml...@a-pro-studio.no> wrote: > > Hi Slau, > > As far as I know, they are using the frame work they use for other plugins > they develop, but I have no clue what code language they use. > > Feel free to contact the developer at proau...@tb-software.com > > Since integrated loudness only gives an average loudness of the whole song, I > need to also know I’m below the short loudness values I’m aiming for, > something the AccessiblePeakMeter2 covers. Yes, it would be better with a > specific number read out like the level meter in Pro Tools does for peak, but > an audible feedback for a threshold that one aims for, is for me the next > best, but currently only solution. > > Of course, if AVID would make the meter in Pro Tools reflect the meter > setting in the preferences also for VoiceOver users, instead of only showing > peak values, it would be nice…. > > Best, > John André > > > On 29 Oct 2018, at 16:37, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi John, > > I'm sure it's calibrated to the reference but there's no way to read an > attained value with the plug-in, at least not in Pro Tools. I saw that there > was some facility to get to those values through reaper and perhaps Logic but > it's not accessible in the AAX version. Hearing it and reading it are two > entirely different things. > > Ian's an old friend of mine and the stand-alone app he suggests provides the > relevant information but simply not in plug-in form which is okay but not > ideal. Pro Limiter provides integrated loudness readings which can be read > with VOCR so that's what I'm currently using. > > Do you know what platform they're using to develop the plug-in? > > Slau > >> On Oct 28, 2018, at 8:02 PM, John André Lium-Netland >> <eml...@a-pro-studio.no> wrote: >> >> Hi Slau, >> >> According to the developer, the EBU ML and EBU SL mode gives you LUFS with >> the EBU R128 reference... >> >> Best, >> John André >> >> >> >> >> >> On 29 Oct 2018, at 00:16, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> I just took another look and it appears that, since they still have the >> original Accessible Peak Meter still on their site, I must have >> inadvertently re-downloaded the original. I'll download the version 2 and >> will have a look. Cheers, >> Slau >> >>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:06 AM, John André Lium-Netland >>> <eml...@a-pro-studio.no> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I’ve got a couple of questions related to the use of the accessible peak >>> meter and spectrum analyser, and in case this is useful to someone else, >>> I’ll paste inn my answers below. I should also add that the manuals for >>> these plugins are found in the users/shared/documentation folder on your >>> startup drive. >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, all the meters will alert you when the threshold you set are touched. >>> So that’s also the case when the meter is set to show peak values. So, if >>> you aim to have the meters at a maximum level of -14 dB LUFS or -16 dB RMS, >>> or -0,5 dB peak level, you simply set the threshold to the value you aim >>> for and raise the volume until you hear the threshold is touched by the >>> music. For some music genres, it might also be a good idea to make sure the >>> dynamic range of your song, that is the difference between the loudest and >>> the most silent parts of your song, is not more than for example 8 dB. You >>> can check this by setting the threshold to a value 8 dB lower than what you >>> aim for as the highest loudness, and then play the most silent parts of >>> your song. If the threshold is not touched here, you might consider fixing >>> that issue by using automation or compression to even out the dynamics in >>> the song. >>> >>> I’m working on a set of presets for the plugins in Pro Tools, to simplify >>> this, since you then can have separate presets for different meter types >>> and different situations. but you might of course create such presets >>> yourself in Logic Pro or Pro Tools. >>> >>> If you would like to know the specific value of the meter at different >>> parts in a song, you should adjust the threshold up and down until you hear >>> the threshold value is touched by the music. >>> >>> If you would like to work with the K system (K14,K20 etc.), you set the >>> threshold to the K value, but use the RMS+3dB mode. >>> >>> The spectrum analyser works the same way, but here you should first set a >>> freq value and a range, and then set the threshold until you hear the music >>> is touching the threshold for that frequency range. So, if you set the freq >>> to 1k (1000Hz), the range to 500Hz, and the threshold is touched at a >>> certain value, you know that this is the volume between 1000 and 1500 Hz. >>> By moving the freq value up and down, and change the threshold until it is >>> touched by the music, you’ll get a picture of how loud the music is in >>> different freq ranges for this song. >>> >>> Does this make sense? ;) >>> >>> Best, >>> John André >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:37, John André Lium-Netland <eml...@a-pro-studio.no> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Some great news today: >>> Based on a previous external project and their own plugin framework, >>> TBProAudio this month upgraded/developed AccesiblePeakMeter2, an accessible >>> meter that will work for RMS/LUFS, VU, peak level and even for K12/K14/K20 >>> if you set up some presets. It’s compatible with both Pro >>> Tools/VoiceOver/Mac and other DAWs and platforms. >>> >>> Using the same method, they have also upgraded/developed >>> AccessibleSpectrumAnalyser 1.01, an accessible spectrum analyser that will >>> work with Pro Tools/VoiceOver/Mac as well as other DAWs and platforms. >>> >>> They are also working on a possible idea for an accessible phase meter. >>> >>> I really appreciate the efforts they have put into this, only based on my >>> request for some accessible meters. There are currently no other accessible >>> meters that does all this. The products can be downloaded free of charge >>> from TBProAudio here: >>> >>> https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/download.html >>> >>> Look for the AccessiblePeakMeter2, and the accessible spectrum analyser. >>> The products are calibrated for 0 dB FS, so no further calibration is >>> needed. I’m working on a set of presets that will speed up the setup of >>> different meters for different situations. I’ll share them when I have done >>> some testing. >>> >>> Hope this will help others as well! >>> >>> Best, >>> John André >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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