it is not the headphones. I've tried about five different pairs. i'll different makes and models.
Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 13, 2019, at 13:15, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Then its probably his headphones. He should try cranking the volume up with > a few different pairs of headphones and that will reveal whether its the > headphones creating the noise or the headphone amp if he’s eliminatedthe mic > pre from the equation > >> On Dec 13, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Ronald J Glaser <ronaldjglas...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I have the same Interface as chris; and I do not know about Chris's >> particular set of cans, but my set of cans do not exibit a his at least that >> is what I am hearing. but my cans come from Yamaha. Not sure if that >> matters, or is there something enharent about headphone amps that I am >> missing? >> >> >> >> Ron. >> >> >> >> On 12/12/2019 12:27 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote: >>> Why not just crank the headphone output so you can hear it during >>> recording. Just turn VoiceOver’s Volume down you can do this quickly by >>> using VO+Shift+Command+ left or Right arrows to find VoiceOver’s Volume, >>> and then using VO+Shift+Command+Up and down arrows to turn the volume up or >>> down. This allows you to adjust VO volume on the fly without leaving pro >>> tools. Once you are done you can turn VoiceOver back up and turn the >>> volume back down on the headphones. Use Notification Center to turn on do >>> not disturb while recording so you aren’t interrupted with any system >>> sounds while recording so nothing will blast your ears out. >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 12, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Does that work though with monitoring in my cans before recording? That's >>>> the main issue. I know how to turn it back up after it's recorded, but the >>>> issue isn't after recorded. It's before. I'm trying to get it where at >>>> such a low level during the actual tracking process, I can hear what I >>>> need to hear through my cans without having to crank them to high heaven >>>> to compensate for the lower input signal. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> On 12/12/2019 12:19 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote: >>>>> I am surprised they gave you that complicat setup, especially considering >>>>> iTunes doesn’t give you a way to export tracks once the volume has been >>>>> lowered on them. Just use clip gain to lower the instrumental track and >>>>> it basically does everything Sweetwater told you to do in one simple >>>>> step. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 12, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Christopher Gilland >>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Slau, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What Sweetwater actually told me is, lower the karaoke track in iTunes >>>>>> before importing it to PT. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not totally sure how to do that, but anyway, then, once that is >>>>>> lowered to fit my vocal level, import into PT, then add my vocal track, >>>>>> but here's the catch. They told me, then, also add a stereo master >>>>>> fader. Then, take that master fader, and only use it as a gain adder. >>>>>> Meaning, you're not really per sé doing anything with the master fader >>>>>> more than using it to add gain. Then, move that master fader volume from >>>>>> it's default 0DB location back up to reach the normal audible level. >>>>>> Presto! Done! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was always under the impression you really don't want a master fader >>>>>> though unless you're literally doing mastering type techniques. Or is >>>>>> that just it though: you kind of *are!* doing a mastering technique by >>>>>> doing this. All be it, you're not really doing anything substantial with >>>>>> the fader more than adding gain, but... still... Is that a way to go, or >>>>>> like me, can you see some potential problems with this method. I'm not >>>>>> really planning to add any final processing to the over all master mix >>>>>> like compression, dithering, final e queueing etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/12/2019 11:27 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: >>>>>>> Turn down the mastered track to a manageable level to accommodate your >>>>>>> vocal recording. Once you've recorded the vocal, process the vocal to a >>>>>>> comparable quality of compression and remix the two. You'll probably >>>>>>> end up having to limit your vocal some if the music was mastered >>>>>>> particularly hot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Christopher Gilland >>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Guys, we've discussed this before, I think, quite some time back, but >>>>>>>> the answers I got were kind of vague, and honestly, and this is of no >>>>>>>> offense to any of you all, weren't very helpful at the time. That's no >>>>>>>> fault of you all. It might have just been my knowledge/experience at >>>>>>>> that time was not of such that I could fully grasp the concepts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is the situation again though. Trust me, too. I've Googled like >>>>>>>> crazy. I spent over about 3 hours last night Youtubing, and just >>>>>>>> Googling in general and am coming up pretty much empty handed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I normally record lead vocals on top of already purchased instrumental >>>>>>>> tracks, so I'm not really normally working with stems. Once in a >>>>>>>> while, I'll do something which takes more than 2 tracks, one for the >>>>>>>> music, one for my vofal, but that's rare. Regardless, this is occuring. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the past, I made a really really bad habbit of cranking my input >>>>>>>> gain on the mike input way up. Well, OK, fine. Not way up, but up >>>>>>>> enough to get good audible level going into PT. I obviously needed the >>>>>>>> level to be balanced with the music track. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Problem is, that music track usually would have been mastered at gain >>>>>>>> unity 0, which you know, anything above that, you're clipping. This >>>>>>>> means anything I drove on top of the music track, that's gonna push my >>>>>>>> master over that 0 no no limit. But! I had to. Or so I thought. It's >>>>>>>> the only way I could get any good volume on my mike input. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, a few things. First my hardware. This way you know what we're >>>>>>>> working with. This interface is popular enough, surely you all know >>>>>>>> enough at least about it to help. I'm running a Focusrite scarlet 2I2 >>>>>>>> interface, and the first generation of a Blue Bluebird microphone. Let >>>>>>>> me be clear. This is the Bluebird, not the baby bottle. Again, the >>>>>>>> first gen, not the 2nd, nor the beta. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, I'm trying to break that habbit of running my gain so hot. I'm >>>>>>>> finding that with where my input dial on the scarlet now is set, I'm >>>>>>>> on my peeks hitting probably around -13DB or so on average, and again, >>>>>>>> that's on the loudest peeks of my vocals. Obviously, that's much much >>>>>>>> better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The problem is, when recording, obviously having the level that low, I >>>>>>>> can't hear myself hardly at all in my cans. I normally have to get >>>>>>>> around -2 to 0DB in my peek meter on the output of the vocal track in >>>>>>>> PT before I can really hear myself well.. Also, when playing things >>>>>>>> back, it's barely audible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Obviously, same problem with my keyboard using a virtual synth, or for >>>>>>>> that mind, patching it directly in the scarlet. As for my vocal, I get >>>>>>>> that to hear it well in my cans, and on the final mix I could pop a >>>>>>>> compressor on the vocal, like the Gray compressor, and set it to a >>>>>>>> preset like steady, which very very significantly does boost the >>>>>>>> volume. The only issue is, no, I'm not clipping, but adding >>>>>>>> compression for the simple reason to boost that output gain is a >>>>>>>> horrible! idea in most cases. It's adding color, sometimes saturation, >>>>>>>> etc. that I definitely do not want into the mix taking away the >>>>>>>> natural beauty of the vocal characteristics. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, I could get a pre like a cloud lifter, but that's gonna present >>>>>>>> the same issue. You turn up that input, bam! now you're clippen again. >>>>>>>> I don't think the issue is on my input side. - I'm fully convinced of >>>>>>>> that. This is an output thing. As level wize, my peek meter in PT is >>>>>>>> showing just fine at -13 roughly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know I also could turn down the music track. Wayyyyy down. Then, add >>>>>>>> a stereo master fader track, and turn it's output volume slider way >>>>>>>> way up to compensate, but is that really the best methodology? I have >>>>>>>> to run that thing with no plugs on the master fader up to nearly >>>>>>>> positive 8 or 9 DB to get the volume back to normal comfortable >>>>>>>> listening. Remember. I'm trying to compensate for that lower -13DB >>>>>>>> level going in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't think the Scarlet has a separate IO path output just for >>>>>>>> headphones alone, so I can't exactly create a bus in the IO settings, >>>>>>>> then send to it individually creating a submix. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the master fader though, again, going to +8 or 9 DB... yeah! That's >>>>>>>> barely giving any headroom at all. Maybe I have a ton on the mike, >>>>>>>> but, yeah. I get I could turn up the output level itself on the vocal >>>>>>>> track but is that really a safe thing to do? I was always told you >>>>>>>> wana try keeping your vocal tracks output volume sliders as close to >>>>>>>> that default 0DB as possible. Only interact with Voiceover on those >>>>>>>> sliders and crank them as a very last resort. I'm told you really >>>>>>>> wanna be using your master, not the level of the mike tracks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Basically all I'm trying to do is keep things at that -13 average, yet >>>>>>>> get them loud enough to hear them through the mix. I could just crank >>>>>>>> up the cans volume knob on the scarlet, or the main output volume fed >>>>>>>> to my speakers, but then, again, I'm gonna have to then crank things >>>>>>>> almost to the point of normal blaring level which means if I do >>>>>>>> anything listening to a regular mp3 outside PT, or try doing anything >>>>>>>> with Voiceover, etc. Yowel! Lookout! Can you say, ow, my aching ears? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just don't know how to deal with this. I'm kind a damned if I do, >>>>>>>> and I'm damned catch22 if i don't. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/2579c232-077e-6b54-ba4c-6c5b313a4b54%40gmail.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/1D927404-9105-4EA5-8A06-F99DB19E0ED1%40gmail.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/d5579571-24f6-83f4-b45e-95b3098f0efa%40gmail.com. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/21305E5D-6027-42E2-AE7C-459D74F72CE7%40gmail.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/c2e0f099-fb06-4fed-9fbb-8f0c7457c6c9%40gmail.com. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/4A1E83D6-A1D4-4684-8770-C5FA9749472B%40gmail.com. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/065f0253-dde0-b349-d2d3-515e08d8e21c%40gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/A415008F-151D-482B-AB80-E277AF04E340%40gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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