Keith is right. There really just isn't enough ambient radiated energy  
out there to power/charge even a low power device such as MP3 players  
or cell phones. The efficiency factor just isn't there. Even if it  
was, I doubt there would be nearly enough energy in most areas  
(Council Crest/Sylvan/Skyline areas excluded).

So unless you plan on hanging out around MegaWatt transmitters all  
day, forget it.

Tyler Booth // President
ph. 503.548.2000 | fx. 503.548.2002
921 SW Washington St, Suite 224
Portland OR 97205


On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:36 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:

>
> Keith wrote:
>>> For comparison, 50mW is what you can collect with a 10%
>>> efficient, 1 inch square solar cell on a sunny day, or
>>> a 10 inch square cell on a darkly cloudy day.
>>
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 03:23:57PM -0700, Daniel Johnson wrote:
>> Do you mean 10 square inches, or 10 inches, by 10 inches (100  
>> square inches)?
>
> 100 square inches, or (10 inches) squared .   Light levels on
> a full sunny day are about 100,000 lux, on a dark cloudy day
> about 1000 lux, average indoor home lighting about 100 lux,
> a full moon about 1 lux, and a clear moonless starlit night
> about 0.001 lux.  The eye is wonderfully logarithmic, power
> from solar cells not so much.
>
> So a solar cell producing 5W (for a full access point) on a dark
> cloudy day would be about 100 inches on a side.  On a moonless
> starlit night, you would need a light collecting area 800 feet
> on a side.  Solar cells leak, so at some point you can't collect
> enough light to overcome the leakage.
>
> A lot of energy collection schemes fail when you do the numbers.
> Energy is a quantitative, not a qualitative, game.
>
> Keith
>
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>
> >
>


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