Team,  here's an opportunity to discuss a "user friendliness" issue with
free wifi systems.

UPnP and NAT-PMP were designed to gracefully handle dynamic port forwarding
for ports > 1024.    It's included with most open source router/firewall
distros.   I find it pretty useful at home and well supported on all
platforms.

Pros:  Used by many voice/video chat clients  (iChat,  Skype, probably
others) to get around NAT issues and provide a better voice/video
experience.

Cons:  Also used to easily enable Bittorrent seeding.  Probably not
desirable on the typical overworked PTP node,  but that isn't my call.
 Also a potential security risk, as users may be unknowingly exposing
themselves to the Internet boogeyman even more than usual.

The percentage of users who will want to forward SSH to themselves (via a
high port) is probably very small.  The major use cases are stated above.
 But if those users are people who assist PTP, shouldn't they deserve a perk
or two?   Perhaps it would help retain volunteers.

-Irving


On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Tyler Booth <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jon,
>
> The trouble with port forwarding on this particular network is that
> everyone on it shares a single IP address. Port 80 and 22 are already
> forwarded to Personal Telco routers/servers that manage this network.
> As for your offer of assistance, we're always looking for eager volunteers.
> Please come to a weekly or monthly meeting and introduce yourself.
>
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> President
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>
>
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2009, at 9:41 PM, jon wrote:
>
> hi, i am a regular user of the mississippi ptp network, and on most
> days can connect from my home a couple blocks away.  i am wondering
> what ptp policy is for setting up nat or port forwarding (etc) for us
> normal users to be able to get to our ptp-connected machines from the
> outside world?
>
> obviously there are matters of security to contend with and so forth,
> but i am thinking of an unused outside port mapping to port 80 of my
> linux box (presumably on a mac-assigned static internal ip address),
> so that i can demo some of my web development to outsiders.  as a
> bonus, another port going to 22 wouldnt hurt either! heh
>
> this is not at all an urgent or critical inquiry, more just one of
> curiosity.  i tend to push things through svn to outside hosts when i
> *really* need to show some development, but it would just be so
> convenient to have somewhere to point to that has the active
> development.
>
> thanks much, especially for keeping the network going over here!
> -jon
>
> p.s. i have offered before, but will state again -- i am available for
> any light net admin kinda maintenance on the mgp network as needed.  i
> even helped climb up on the ballroom roof once to get some new
> equipment in.  lemme know.
>
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