各位,今天CSS小組處理CSS Counter Style,要求非正式的計數方式。我以zh-TW的口語表達回應。
請各位Review,也希望回應zh-CN與zh-HK的技術方式(若有不同)。 WANDERER Bobby Tung Sent from my iPhone 5. 開始轉寄郵件: > 寄件人: Koji Ishii <[email protected]> > 日期: 2013年11月11日 GMT+8下午8時09分00秒 > 收件人: Tab Atkins Jr. <[email protected]>, Xidorn Quan > <[email protected]> > 副本: www-style list <[email protected]>, 董福興 <[email protected]> > 標題: Re: [css-counter-styles] implementation of complex cjk counter styles > > I'm forwarding information from Bobby; looks like it matches to Xidorn's > feedback for Chinese. > > /koji > > > From: 董福興 <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:55 PM > To: "Ishii, Koji a | Koji | BLD" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [css-counter-styles] Suggested changes to Chinese and Korean > informal styles > > > Can I count informal styles as verbal expression? > > here is the list. please help me to forward. I've read #CSS discussion. > > 1 > 一 > > 10 > 十 > (end zero is skipped) > > 11 > 十|一 > > 100 > 一百 > (end two zero is skipped) > > 101 > 一百|零|一 > > 110 > 一百|一 > (end zero is skipped,一 is instead of 十) > > 111 > 一百|一十|一 > > 1000 > 一千 > (end three zero is skipped) > > 1001 > 一千|零|一 > (two zero is combined as one zero) > > 1010 > 一千|零|一十| > (end zero is skipped) > > 1011 > 一千|零|一十|一 > > 1100 > 一千|一 > (end two zero is skipped, 一 is instead of 一百) > > 1101 > 一千|一百|零|一 > > 1110 > 一千|一百|一十 > (end zero is skipped) > > 1111 > 一千|一百|一十|一 > > 10000 > 一萬 > (end four zero is skipped) > > > 10001 > 一萬|零|一 > (Three zero is combined) > > 10010 > 一萬|零|一十| > (two zero is combined, final end is skipped) > > 10011 > 一萬|零|一十|一 > (two zero is combined) > > 10100 > 一萬|零|一百 > (end two zero is skipped) > > > 10101 > 一萬|零|一百|零|一 > > 10110 > 一萬|零|一百|一十 > (end zero is skipped) > > 10111 > 一萬|零|一百|一十|一 > > 11000 > 一萬|一 > (end three zero is skipped, 一 is instead of 一千) > > > 11001 > 一萬|一千|零|一 > (two zero is combined) > > > 11100 > 一萬|一千|一 > (end two zero is skipped, 一 is instead of 一百) > > > 11101 > 一萬|一千|一百|零|一 > > 11110 > 一萬|一千|一百|一十| > (end zero is skipped, 一 is instead of 一十) > > > 11111 > 一萬|一千|一百|一十|一 > > > Koji Ishii <[email protected]> 於 2013/11/11 下午3:17 寫道: > > > Bobby, we need Chinese experts on issue #11 on this: > http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-counter-styles/issues-lc-20130718.html#issue-11 > > Do you have any insights? > > /koji > > > > On 11/7/13 11:13 AM, "Tab Atkins Jr." <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Xidorn Quan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I just submitted an implementation of longhand East Asian counter >>> styles for >>> Firefox. You can find it at >>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934072 . >>> >>> As described in comment 8 in the page mentioned above, this impl >>> generates a >>> slightly different result with the current draft: for 11,111, it >>> generates >>> "一万千百十一" in japanese-informal and "萬 千百十一" in korean-hanja-informal; >>> and it >>> generates "一千万" for 10,000,000 in japanese-informal. These >>> modifications are >>> based on the discussion in this mailing list and replies from some of my >>> native friends, and I also referred to the result of Google Translate. >> >> Can you please describe what these changes are in terms of the >> algorithms in the spec? > > And here's more of Xidorn's feedback, on the Chinese informal styles: > >> Section 7.2.1, 5. Drop ones, the first term should be changed from >> >>> For the Chinese informal styles, for any group with a value between ten >>> and nineteen, >>> remove the tens digit (leave the digit marker). >> >> to >> >>> For the Chinese informal styles, for any group **other than the ones >>> group** with a >>> value between ten and nineteen, remove the tens digit (leave the digit >>> marker). >> >> For example, for number 10,011, the current term generates "一万零十一" and >> the new term generates "一万零一十一" which is more preferable. The number >> of result Google search can prove: 8 results for "一万零十一", but about >> 741,000 results for "一万零一十一". > > Thoughts? > > ~TJ > >
