At 22:09 2/11/98 +0800, omega wrote:
>Yes, they finally revolt, and the rich can never understand why either, as
>they too tend to be oblivious to reality in their virtual world. The revolt
>by the poor is quickly taken over by the rich (organisers) though.
Studied any history, omega? The 'rich' are only too aware of what makes
the 'poor' revolt. This is why we have law-and-order hysteria.
>I would prefer the words: 'not capable of being organised' to, not
>political.
I'm not surprised. It shows your prejudices comnig through. 'Poor' people
are just as capable of being organised (or organising themselves) as anyone
else - all that needs to happen is that people see a benefit in
organisation. This happens time and time again throughout history.
If we feel that there is a benefit in organising to break the two-party
system, and we can communicate this benefit effectively, then we will find
others that will join up, in effect organising themselves at the same tmie
as joining a larger organisation.
I've snipped your blatant racism - we've seen it from you before and I for
one am bored with it.
>How do you educate the ineducable?
I keep asking myself this question, but find that racists just don't want
to be educated.
>>2. The poor are morally deficient and would rather attack those weaker
>>than themselves than confront the wealthy and powerful.
>
>The reality is, they do just that.
On what basis do you make this claim?
>What would be the outcome if the poor were organised and the rich
>disorganised? (a contadictory statement I know, as organised = rich,
>disorganised = poor).
You're actually quite wrong. Unionised workers can be considered both
'organised' and 'poor' in many industries. 'Rich' people aren't organised
so much as they are order-givers. They're quasi-fascists, who may take
advice, but still retain power to give orders to their minions and slaves.
Members of groups I work with are also both 'poor' and 'organised', so it's
never quite as simple as you're trying to make it out to be.
Let's stop playing around with stereotypes and start working out where to
go from here. Otherwise we're going to get bogged down in relatively
meaningless side-issues. It's all too easy to say, "Poor people can't be
organised so it's not our fault we can't organise them." It's much harder
to actually give it a go.
Alister
--
"Let us not fool ourselves, half a century after the adoption
of this Declaration (of human Rights) and supposedly under its
protection, millions of people have died in the world without
reaching the age of 50 and without even knowing that there was
a universal document that should have protected them."
Roberto Robaina, Cuba's Foreign Minister
