Re: Dawn of the new millennium?

[Philip Madsen]

David. Now lets us forget about calendars. Lets just talk numbers. Then that is the bit you agree with. Pure mathematics. You cant have a zero year. The first year of the count is 1. We both concede that at 6months the first year is 0.5 of the first year. At midnight on New years eve we are in the 2nd and so on.   Regarding the second part, and applying the same maths to our calendar, and assuming there have been no lost years or mistakes in recording, though this wouldn't change the basic arithmetical rules, the first year of our Lord in our calendar called 1AD began at His birth. It does not matter whether He was born in January or December. But for the sake of this example, lets take December 25th. Therefore Our Lord lived 6 days till Dec 31 Year 1, and then entered His second year on January the 1st 2AD. This is pure math, no different to you or I. He will have to wait till the next 25th Dec. of  year 2AD for His second birthday. You must not make the mistake of thinking that His birth was the beginning of the first year. The years are already fixed/established and controlled by the seasons, or the sun.   Now we are in the alleged 1,999th year from that first birthday. Even if a mistake has been made, that is irrelevant. That count is universally accepted. Therefore it IS one complete year short of TWO millenniums.   ]There is no need for us to go back to Jesus Christ or any other calendar.   Most of the confusions you raised about calendars, mistakes, baptisms, births etc., are irrelevant. I believe there is much evidence to support a case for a 6year error anyway. This changes nothing in the rule of math upon which we count a century. WE only need to go back one century, to 1801, that is the beginning of the 19th century (as NUMBERS go) to find out that 1900 is the last year of the 19th century. Following on, therefore 1901 is the first year of the 20th century, and 2000 is the last year of the 20th century. AND THE LAST YEAR OF THE SECOND MILLENNIUM.   Arthur C Clarke, a top astronomer and scientist  knew this when he wrote the eventual movie 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY .The new millemnnium begins. Check out the movie.   Philip     ----- Original Message -----  From: Expoweb To: Philip Madsen Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Dawn of the new millennium? Dear Philip...         I agree with you...but I disagree...Why?   Well as you state...there was no year zero between 1BC and 1AD...these are counted Jan 1st 1 BC to December 31 1AD as two years - not three...but where the hell did it all start from...nobody knows...on top of this our calender has been changed around 6 times since the time of Christ...The Julian calender had its most recent change in 1582 after the Papal Bull.  From October 4th, 10 days were deleted - and the day after October 4 in that year became October 15.  Considering that AD means the "Year of our Lord" (JC) and our calender is calculated from when he became lord at his baptism 29AD (on his 30th birthday around October 1st) and calculated backwards 30 years = 1BC.   Then again Christmas is not December 25th...rather just after October 1st - give or take a day as nobody knows when JC was born exactly.  We are in fact in the third millenium...as of this week!  Give or take a day....I can go more into this later - but I do have the time right now....and besides...who did the counting before Adam!!!!   best David Philip Madsen wrote: To the FRANKLIN MINT HTTP://www.franklinmint.com   I notice that you are promoting New age medals as though the New or 3rd Millennium dawns on Jan 1st  2000. This is now a serious error or a case of misrepresentation for profit. Any school kid who studies arithmetic knows that the year 2000 is the LAST year of the 20th century, and the end of the second Millennium, not the beginning of the third. Just as the 1st Century began at 1AD and finished at 100AD so also did the 20th century start at 1901 and finishes in the year 2000. Two millenniums represent 2000 years. No one can say that 2 millenniums are 1999 years. Basic arithmetic lesson: 1 to 10        is equal to one decade.1 to 100      is equal to one century.1 to 1000    is equal to one millennium. As a suggestion, to avoid your being sued for misrepresentation, all may not be lost.  You could no doubt sell all this stuff as a valuable collectors item representing the biggest boomer the world has ever made. Certainly many are making the same mistake, but voting on it cant make 9 equal to 10. Regards Philip Madsen.