Dear Joe,
 
Have you run out of Valium?
 
John.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: succeed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, 28 May 2001 20:13
Subject: Making the changes needed.

Greetings Sharree,
 
John Wilson copied his reply to you - on to me.
 
Juries are one way not the only way.  John is keen on the jury approach and doing a lot of damage demanding that it is the only way. Reality is that the more people that are doing something, then bigger the numbers of people will become informed.
 
Juries could do the job but for two major problems. 1.  the courts deny the right to trial by jury on most matters.   2. the people are so dumbed down that most have no ability to serve as a juror, most don't know right from wrong. These problems are as difficult to overcome as changing the whole system of government.  Why repair a worn-out tyre when it should be replaced with a new one?
 
The problem, if a country has one and most do, is found in the rules that limit government, the Constitution.  Either it is an effective constitution or it is defective.  Most sound great but in reality are an open door to power hungry politicians doing the bidding of the money power.
 
A good Constitution sets proper, reasonable and enforceable limits on government and a means whereby the people can, readily and without personal expense enforce the rules.
 
If you are not getting justice then look to your Constitution for its inadequacy.
 
Australia is in just as big a mess as anywhere, all a result of the money power as it everywhere else.
 
Recently we declared an Australian Declaration of Right 2001, attached for your information. We are working on a Draft Fresh Constitution which is all but complete.  Only available by in hard copy by post Kit $20A postal order.  The big problem is getting the population to know what we are doing that alone understand it.
 
We have step by step plans to overcome this problem, not for publication.
 
Unfortunately our biggest enemy is people like John Wilson who constantly tell people that so-in-so is the ONLY way, this attitude is epidemic in the 'freedom' movement in Australia.
 
Every thing you do will have an effect, in the end it will be an informed public that will bring the changes needed.  But people rely on leadership and ideas so if you have some ideas go for it, but heed the above before deciding which way will have the greatest effect.
 
Through history the people have never done anything, it has always been the few, when the time is right (informed people) the few get a result with the weight of the people.
 
I know you have a bill of rights, so did soviet Russia.  There is only one way to guarantee people liberty and justice and that is by placing clear limits on government.  A bill of rights limits the people.  Limited Government and the means whereby the people can readily enforce the limits without personal costs is, to use Johns words the ONLY way.  But there is much informing of the general public to be done in the mean time, information about the power of juries and a host of other issues.
 
I often quote from your Declaration of Independence,-------- to which I would take the liberty of adding three word, highlighted in blue:----------
 
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, ­­­­­­­­­­­that all men are created equal under the law, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government.
 
Check out the following web sites.  www.alt3.net  www.ja.olm.net/succeed www.killgst.com
 
Regards Joe Bryant.
 
 

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