On 9 Jul 2008, at 00:11, Bijan Parsia wrote:
[big snip]
Complaining that the Big Nasty People Who Know What They're Talking
About are raining on your sameAs parade isn't constructive.
Ah Bijan. How about *you* grow up, flameboy?
You keep asserting that There Are Technical Problems With Using
sameAs. It would help your argument if you told us what those
technical problems actually *are*. I heard you say that using
owl:sameAs could bite us in the butt. Could you be more specific?
Many people in this forum, including me, do not have a background in
formal logics. Without that background, it is hard to distinguish
proper uses of owl:sameAs from improper uses of owl:sameAs. Please
give us some guidance on that rather than wasting your intellect on
fanning the flames.
A side note: The reason why I advocate the use of owl:sameAs is not
that it's the *right* solution. But it's *the only solution that was
available*. The alternative would have been to argue for a year or two
instead of linking up our datasets. Not compelling. That being said,
I'm very interested in hearing your take on when I should use
owl:sameAs and when not.
Richard
Perhaps your should direct your bile toward people who claim that
sameAs is a solution.
First, people *do* use sameAs for the semantics (to some degree).
But often
those semantics are wrong. People champion that use. I think
that's a
mistake. It can seriously bite you on the butt as you add more
expressivity.
If you don't ever use more expressivity it won't (perhaps).
How do you propose people should be able to generically say that two
URI's refer to the same real world thing if their representational
data structures
You lost me with your jargon.
are fundamentally disjoint and hence saying owl:sameAs
will break something somewhere at some point in time?
That's not what I was concerned about.
Do any of the
OWL normative documents deal with this issue?
Frame the question concretely and intelligibly and perhaps I can
help you.
One can only tackle so many issues at a time. I try to give some
info so
people, instead of using what I think is the wrong thing, can
figure out
something better.
This is a big issue currently.
There are lots of issues. Many of them are big to many people. Why
not try to solve some?
What alternatives do you have to give them?
I'm not sure why you think that I shouldn't point out technical
problems with using sameAs.
Cheers,
Bijan.
