Hi again,
On 19.03.2009, at 14:58, Tom Heath wrote:
Hi Knud :)
2009/3/19 Knud Hinnerk Möller <[email protected]>:
Hi Tom,
great stuff, and nice you're using some of our swc vocabulary!
Once a <http://data.semanticweb.org/ns/swc/ontology#DogfoodTsar>
always a <http://data.semanticweb.org/ns/swc/ontology#DogfoodTsar> ;)
It's an unliftable curse!
I'd love to
import the data into the dog food site - the more data we have there, the
better. However, as your data is at the moment, only the people would
show
up as resources on our site, since everything else is in the ldow
namespace.
Good point!
Do you think you could generate an xml file as described in [1]? That
would
make the import task easiest and would generate RDF that integrates
nicely
with the rest of the dataset!
No sign of [1] in your mail, but I think I follow you. So am I ok to
modify my script to mint URIs in the following namespace?
http://data.semanticweb.org/workshop/ldow/2009/
ooops... [1] was supposed to point to
http://data.semanticweb.org/documentation/user/faq#how_to_add
You are absolutely ok to mint URIs in the dogfood namespace, as long as we
manage to get the data into the site afterwards! The easiest way might be to
produce the XML files as outlined in [1] (this time the link is really
there! ;), but we should also manage to get it to work by adding the right
triples in your RDFa. I should write up a list of triples that are necessary
for the dogfood UI to make sense of the data - everything can be loaded, but
not everything displays nicely at the moment.
One comment about the modelling. You say:
<http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2009/papers/ldow2009_paper11.pdf> a
swrc:InProceedings .
Would it not be nicer to have a separate URI for the paper and then link
to
the pdf? E.g.:
<http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2009/papers/ldow2009_paper11> a
swrc:InProceedings .
<http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2009/papers/ldow2009_paper11> swrc:url
<http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2009/papers/ldow2009_paper11.pdf> .
What do you think?
Yes, good point, this would make good sense. I'll make these
improvements when I have a spare moment.
Very cool.
Before I spend too long on
that though, are there plans that you or anyone else knows about to
RDFize the data about all WWW2009 workshops etc? Would be a shame to
duplicate effort, though providing it at source does have a lot of
appeal.
I just asked Daniel Schwabe if he knew if we could repeat the process from
last year (take EasyChair data, convert with our script) for the main
conference data. Let's see what comes out of that. I don't know anything
about the workshops, though. I'd say there are three possibilities at the
moment (in increasing order of effort involved):
1.) If you use EasyChair, take the data from there and convert with existing
script. You need access to the XML output of EasyChair, though.
2.) send me the data in XML as per [1], so that I can convert it with the
same script.
3.) generate the RDF yourself. That will probably need some iterations to
get it right (or I will have to make the dogfood URI more robust!)
Incidentally, I think there are some errors in
<http://data.semanticweb.org/workshop/LDOW/2008/rdf>. AFAICR there are
no hasAcronym and completeGraph properties in SWC.
ouch, you spotted my vocabulary hacking there... those two properties are
additions I came up with, which are unfortunately not yet reflected in the
vocabulary source online. I'll correct that asap.
Cheers,
Knud
Cheers,
Tom.
On 18.03.2009, at 18:03, Tom Heath wrote:
Hi all,
In the name of eating our own dog food, information about the upcoming
LDOW2009 workshop at WWW2009 is now being published as Linked Data.
Basically the workshop site [1] now contains a reasonable amount of
RDFa about papers, PC members and chairs, with links between LDOW2009
authors, chairs and PC members and their corresponding entries in the
SW Conference Corpus [2].
There is plenty more data that could be exposed, but I think this is a
reasonable start. If you want to see the data in other forms, you can
use the RDFa Distiller [3], to get e.g. RDF/XML [4].
Knud, if you're listening, would it be possible to get this data into
the SW Conference Corpus (and then maybe updated later if we publish
more)? Presumably this would ensure that links to authors not already
in the corpus would no longer 404.
For the record, the main workshop Web page is generated by a hacky
little PHP script that reads a data file; this script is now enhanced
to generate RDFa and links to the SW Conference Corpus. If people are
interested I can clean the code up and release it under some open
license; it makes an easy way to generate a workshop Web site that
does Linked Data out of the box.
Cheers,
Tom.
[1] http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2009/
[2] http://data.semanticweb.org/
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/
[4]
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fevents.linkeddata.org%2Fldow2009%2F&format=pretty-xml&warnings=false&parser=lax&host=xhtml&space-preserve=true&submit=Go!
2009/3/17 Chris Bizer <[email protected]>:
Hi all,
we are happy to announce that the papers of this year’s Linked Data on
the
Web workshop are online now and can be accessed at
http://events.linkeddata.org/ldow2009/
Looking at the program, we think that LDOW2009 is going to be again a
exciting event.
Congratulations to the authors and lots of thanks to the members of the
LDOW
program committee for all their tough reviewing work!
We are looking forward to see you in Madrid.
Cheers,
Chris Bizer, Tom Heath, Tim Berners-Lee, Kingsley Idehen
(LDOW 2009 Organizing Committee)
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