Hi Martin,

On 25.06.2009, at 17:44, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote:

Hi all:

After about two months of helping people generate RDF/XML metadata for their businesses using the GoodRelations annotator [1], I have quite some evidence that the current best practices of using .htaccess are a MAJOR bottleneck for the adoption of Semantic Web technology.

Just some data:
- We have several hundred entries in the annotator log - most people spend 10 or more minutes to create a reasonable description of themselves. - Even though they all operate some sort of Web sites, less than 30 % of them manage to upload/publish a single *.rdf file in their root directory. - Of those 30%, only a fraction manage to set up content negotiation properly, even though we provide a step-by-step recipe.

These are interesting statistics, maybe you want to blog about them or publish them in some other way?

The effects are
- URIs that are not dereferencable,
- incorrect media types and
and other problems.

When investigating the causes and trying to help people, we encountered a variety of configurations and causes that we did not expect. It turned out that helping people just managing this tiny step of publishing Semantic Web data would turn into a full-time job for 1 - 2 administrators.

Typical causes of problems are
- Lack of privileges for .htaccess (many cheap hosting packages give limited or no access to .htaccess) - Users without Unix background had trouble name a file so that it begins with a dot
- Microsoft IIS require completely different recipes
- Many users have access just at a CMS level

Bottomline:
- For researchers in the field, it is a doable task to set up an Apache server so that it serves RDF content according to current best practices. - For most people out there in reality, this is regularly a prohibitively difficult task, both because of a lack of skills and a variety in the technical environments that turns into an engineering challenge what is easy on the textbook-level.

For the cases where people still want to serve RDF documents, it would be neat if various CMSes had a simple way of handling content- negotiation. What I'm thinking of is e.g. a module for Drupal which would allow the Drupal admin to specify that, if rdf/xml for node X is requested (a page), serve RDF document Y. The content negotiation would be handled by php code in the module, hence no fiddling with .htaccess required.

As a consequence, we will modify our tool so that it generates "dummy" RDFa code with span/div that *just* represents the meta-data without interfering with the presentation layer. That can then be inserted as code snippets via copy-and-paste to any XHTML document.

I like it! It's similar to what our Shift tool [2] does for other kinds of data. However, this might lead to other problems: many CMSes only allow a subset of HTML in their input forms, so some of the RDFa could get lost. I remember this was a problem with Blogger in the past (not sure if this problem persists).

Cheers,
Knud

[1] http://kantenwerk.org/shift/



Any opinions?

Best
Martin

[1]  http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/

Danny Ayers wrote:
Thank you for the excellent questions, Bill.

Right now IMHO the best bet is probably just to pick whichever format
you are most comfortable with (yup "it depends") and use that as the
single source, transforming perhaps with scripts to generate the
alternate representations for conneg.

As far as I'm aware we don't yet have an easy templating engine for
RDFa, so I suspect having that as the source is probably a good choice
for typical Web applications.

As mentioned already GRDDL is available for transforming on the fly,
though I'm not sure of the level of client engine support at present.
Ditto providing a SPARQL endpoint is another way of maximising the
surface area of the data.

But the key step has clearly been taken, that decision to publish data
directly without needing the human element to interpret it.

I claim *win* for the Semantic Web, even if it'll still be a few years
before we see applications exploiting it in a way that provides real
benefit for the end user.

my 2 cents.

Cheers,
Danny.




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