Hi Giovanni:

Giovanni Tummarello wrote:
Hi Martin, all,

 the sitemap exposed is not a Semantic Sitemap

Semantic Sitemap: http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/sitemap.xml

but simply gives the location of the dumps.

As far as I see, the sitemap at

http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/sitemap.xml

gives the locations of the compressed semantic sitemaps:


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<sitemapindex xmlns="http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9";>
   <sitemap>
       <loc>http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/sitemap1.xml.gz</loc>
       <lastmod>2009-07-31T18:23:17+00:00</lastmod>
   </sitemap>


Each one of those seems to be a proper semantic sitemap
E.g.

http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/sitemap1.xml.gz

-->

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<urlset xmlns="http://www.sitemaps.org/schemas/sitemap/0.9"; xmlns:sc="http://sw.deri.org/2007/07/sitemapextension/scschema.xsd";>
   <sc:dataset>
<sc:datasetLabel>Sitemap data for Best Buy Co., Inc., products. Data based on http://purl.org/goodrelations/</sc:datasetLabel>
       <sc:datasetURI>http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/</sc:datasetURI>
<sc:linkedDataPrefix slicing="subject-object">http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/</sc:linkedDataPrefix> <sc:sampleURI>http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/9380001/semanticweb.rdf</sc:sampleURI> <sc:dataDumpLocation>http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/43900/semanticweb.rdf</sc:dataDumpLocation> <sc:dataDumpLocation>http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/48521/semanticweb.rdf</sc:dataDumpLocation> <sc:dataDumpLocation>http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/48530/semanticweb.rdf</sc:dataDumpLocation> <sc:dataDumpLocation>http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/54256/semanticweb.rdf</sc:dataDumpLocation>



in theory if this information is exposed as linked data then one would
like to have a semantic sitemap exposed,
As said - I understand BestBuy is using the main sitemap to bundle the individual semantic sitemaps. Note that they are dealing with 450,000 documents. A single sitemap file would be pretty large.

which includes other details
e.g. a sparql endpoint some information on the datasets etc. [1]

There is, to my knowledge, no SPARQL endpoint offered by BestBuy.com, but you can soon simply use the Linked Open Commerce dataspace at

http://loc.openlinksw.com/sparql

This will contain a current copy of the bestbuy graphs.
has this been considered and decided against?
As far as I know, the combination of a sitemap and 23 semantic sitemaps was a pragmatic decision. If it causes major problems, Jay Myers from BestBuy will for sure be open to improvements for suggestions.
should we just live with
it and fit sindice to do some guesswork and process those instead? (i
am not necessarely against this last solution really.. )
You simply have to fetch and un-gzip the 23 semantic sitemaps at

http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/sitemap<n>.xml.gz

with <n> being a number from 1 to 23.

Note that

http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/sitemap5.xml.gz

seems to have a syntactical problem (fix is already requested).
In other words are you suggesting the use of semantic sitemaps
We usually recommend using semantic sitemaps. But actually I think that a consolidated dataspace like the LOC will become more important in the future, because it creates to much overhead for each agent and application to crawl and consolidate the whole Web of Linked Data on his/her own.

or
should we just come to term to this? The disavantage is that linked
data browser that wants to use an index to find information will be
able to do so less reliably (hope that our guesswork works)
As said - I understand (without a thorough analyis, though), that BestBuy's usage of a single sitemap and multiple semantic sitemaps is okay.
Giovanni

[1] http://sw.deri.org/2007/07/sitemapextension/

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Martin Hepp
(UniBW)<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear all:

BestBuy.com has just started to serve a complete RDF/XML dump of their
products and price information to the Web of Linked Data, using the
GoodRelations vocabulary for e-commerce. The data dump is updated on a
daily basis and contains detailed descriptions for roughly 450,000
individual items. With about 60 triples per item, this totals to about
27 million RDF triples.

Semantic Sitemap: http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/sitemap.xml

Examples:
a) Software:
http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/8182593/semanticweb.rdf

b) "Hardgoods":
http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/8794691/semanticweb.rdf

c) Movies:
http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/7590289/semanticweb.rdf

d) Games:
http://products.semweb.bestbuy.com/products/9223752/semanticweb.rdf

Other than many existing large RDF transcripts, the data very dynamic,
holding the daily prices for all items.
According to Wikipedia, BestBuy.com is the largest specialty retailer of
consumer electronics in the United States accounting for 19% of the market.

It is likely the first Fortune 500 company to start publishing offer
details on the Web of Linked Data.

Congratulations to Jay Myers from BestBuy.com for this excellent
contribution, and a big thanks to Andreas Radinger and Alex Stolz for
their support,

Best wishes

Martin Hepp

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Webcast:
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http://tr.im/rAbN

Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: "Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology"
http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp

Overview article on Semantic Universe:
http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe

Project page:
http://purl.org/goodrelations/

Resources for developers:
http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations

Tutorial materials:
CEC'09 2009 Tutorial: The Web of Data for E-Commerce: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://tr.im/grcec09

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