On 17 Sep 2009, at 14:04, Juan Sequeda wrote:
I agree with this definition of hacker:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28hobbyist%29
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Kingsley Idehen <[email protected]
> wrote:
[email protected] wrote:
kingsley, from a marketing perspective the first question one has to
ask: who is the audience?
if you call it mesh-up, many people think: oh, that's a typo.
if you call it hack-a-thon some people feel attracted from outside
of the ld-community.
so, who shall he the audience of this event? juan, I think that
hackers play a crucial role if we want to see our community growing,
great idea!
- andreas
Andreas,
You are kind of asking the questions in reverse order.
I disagree. First question is always "who is the audience". If we
want something like this to be successful, we need to know who is
attending. As Giovanni put it, the audience is "those that instead
"would get bored otherwise" usually funnel into these things"
because everybody else would be attending the paper sessions.
Yes, absolutely.
You are supporting the use of "hack" then asking who is the
audience. Think about this for a second.
No he is not.
I also have no idea as to basis of your theory re. "hackers play a
crucial role if we see our community growing...". That's simply not
true. Remember, this whole Semantic Web Project has stacks of
history behind it, and the periods of tangible progress haven't been
intextricably linked to the activities of "hackers".
This is not going to be mainstream if my web developer friends (who
are hackers... let's not go into defining what a hacker is please)
does not get it! I go through this every day!!!! And I have nothing
worthy to show anybody because there is basically nothing out there!
We need to bootstrap this!
I couldn't agree more.
You have an event that is right next door to the Federal Govt., an
entity that will ultimately be the largest publisher of Linked Data
on this planet, and you truly believe that this is about bringing
more "hackers" on board?
Yes!! Somebody has to do something with the data!!!!!!! Somebody,
anybody. But do something. Make it worth it. So how about if all the
hackers who are at ISWC get together and do something! And there
will be prizes too!
This discussion is proving my point (and of a lot of people I know)
that the semantic web community canno
1) articulate a simple message to developers (or hacker or whatever
you want to call them)
2) support one another in making the message accessible to regular
developers
Reminder: I urge everybody to try to explain what Linked Data and
the Semantic Web is 1) web developer 2) CEO 3) VC investors 4) my
parents.
I do 1-3 about weekly. It's hard work, but far from impossible. I'll
leave 4 up to you :)
- Steve
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