Le 05/11/2010 18:25, Giovanni Tummarello a écrit :
How about something that's totally independant from HEADER issues?

think normal people here. absolutely 0 interest to mess with headers
and http responses.. absolutely no business incentive to do it.

Solutions to technical problems are not for little kids, grandmothers and casual Web users. Getting a Web page on the Web is actually really complex, you have to do a lot of stuff with the header, maybe content-negociate etc. Yet, little kids and grandmothers can jump from webpages to webpages.


as a baseline think someone wanting to annotate with RDFa a hand
crafted, apached served html file.
really.. as simple as serving this people.

Yep, implement the HTTP header stuff in the RDFa editor and it becomes as simple as web browsing 101.


as simple as anyone who's using opengraph just copy pastes into their
HTML template.. as simple as this
really, please, its the only thing that can work?

The complexity of a technical solution has really nothing to do with the difficulty of using the solution. Don't worry Gio, this technicality (if it's ever implemented) won't make Sindice and Sig.ma less user-friendly ;)


Giovanni


Cheers,
AZ.



On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Nathan<[email protected]>  wrote:
Mike Kelly wrote:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-12#page-14

snipped and fuller version inserted:

   4.  If the response has a Content-Location header field, and that URI
       is not the same as the effective request URI, then the response
       asserts that its payload is a representation of the resource
       identified by the Content-Location URI.  However, such an
       assertion cannot be trusted unless it can be verified by other
       means (not defined by HTTP).

If a client wants to make a statement  about the specific document
then a response that includes a content-location is giving you the
information necessary to do that correctly. It's complemented and
further clarified in the entity body itself through something like
isDescribedBy.

I stand corrected, think there's something in this, and it could maybe
possibly provide the semantic indirection needed when Content-Location is
there, and different to the effective request uri, and complimented by some
statements (perhaps RDF in the body, or Link header, or html link element)
to assert the same.

Covers a few use-cases, might have legs (once HTTP-bis is a standard?).

Nicely caught Mike!

Best,

Nathan





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